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Andy H

Yarmouth, Nova Scotia

Can anyone tell me if this is the same as those offered recently on the EVGVG silent auction.


1/22/2011 9:44:35 PM


Cornwall UK.(50N 5W)300ft.

No the Robinsons one is a Beetroot.
The EGVGA one looks like mammoth red mangel to me.
Unfortunately some seed companies have made a right mess of the descriptions putting pictures of one with descriptions of the other etc.

1/23/2011 6:27:41 AM

Andy H

Yarmouth, Nova Scotia

Thanks for the reply. The seeds I have now produce beets that look like this, mine are much smaller of course


Is this a mammoth or a red mangel?

1/23/2011 11:35:38 AM


Cornwall UK.(50N 5W)300ft.

You'd have to ask Jon Evans what it is there is other stuff out there as well.

1/23/2011 12:40:24 PM

Dutch Brad


Those are different as mentioned.

Many shows won't accept the Mammoth variety the EGVGA distributes.

I've looked into the situation together with Peter Glazebrook and a few others. The British shows will not accept the "Mammoth" because it is not a 'rubra' variety.

I have been assured that the Mammoth is a beetroot and not a mangel, but it is not of the 'rubra' variety but a Beta vulgaris, vulgaris. British and I believe most shows only accept Beta vulgaris, rubra.

You can eat the "Mammoth". It is sold as an edible beetroot in The Netherlands and I have tried it.

What I see from John Evans picture, it is also not a Beta vulgaris, rubra, though.

Botanically speaking there is little or no difference between a mangel or a beetroot I have been told. But the mangels I have been seeing here are a different colour and shape than the "Mammoth".

The EGVGA has decided to only accept 'rubra' varieties for competition purposes starting this year. We will have a non-competition class for the 'Mammoth' variety.

1/24/2011 2:51:15 AM

Dutch Brad


The problem with beetroots is that they can be pretty much any colour between white and black (including yellow, pink, red, orange, purple) and take on quite a few shapes including flat, round, tapered, conical, etc.

The Mammoth variety can take on different shapes as well. I have had tapered ones but also pretty much square ones.

In every class you almost always have exceptions. Take a look at the mess Guinness has made of the cucumber class and the beetroot class, to mention a few.

Anyways, I'll make sure you get some "Mammoth" and rubra beetroot seeds Andy.

1/24/2011 2:55:24 AM

Andy H

Yarmouth, Nova Scotia

Thanks Brad, you made my day.

1/24/2011 9:02:46 AM

Spudley (Scott)


AXC hows does one get in touch with John Evans? Where is he?

2/15/2011 6:25:22 PM

Soopr Sizr

Littleton, Colorado

He is in Alaska, here is his contact info

contact: ALASKA GIANT SEEDS, P.O. Box 1072, Palmer, AK 99645, U.S.A., fax +1-907-746-4781, Home Phone +1-907-746-4781, e-mail AlaskaGiant@alaskaGiant.com

2/15/2011 11:04:17 PM

Dutch Brad


He currently lives in both Ireland and the Philippines. You might want to ask here:


2/16/2011 3:10:57 AM

Andy H

Yarmouth, Nova Scotia

Received my EGVGA seed pak today, very impressed! Thanks Brad for the excellent selection of root vegetable seeds, especially the carrot and parsnip. I may also try to grow a swede, lol.

2/16/2011 5:21:03 PM

Spudley (Scott)


The heaviest beetroot weighed 71.050 kg (156 lb 10.24 oz) and was grown by Piet de Goede (Netherlands) and weighed in Holland, Netherlands on 30 October 2005.

2/16/2011 9:01:50 PM

Linus Van Pelt (Engel Orange)

Menomonie, WI (mail@gr8pumpkin.net)

156lb beet? wow

3/7/2011 1:21:39 PM

Dutch Brad


Guinness has been promising for years to revise that world record, but haven't yet.
The 156 lb WR was a white sugar beet. I talked to the chairman of that weigh-off and one of the contestants. It is a sugar beet weigh-off and no other beet types are shown there.

3/10/2011 2:57:24 AM

GPW (Crazy-Growers)


Right! No beetroot

3/10/2011 1:58:13 PM


Lindon, Utah

Trying to grow a big beet this year. Growing them in pots. I also have some in the ground. I planted them in Feb.


The beet in the image is know in a very large pot. It looks like the beet root splits a little as it grows. I would be glad to share other images if your interested. Just let me know.


4/10/2011 8:39:57 PM

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