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            | Andy H | Brooklyn Corner, Nova Scotia | Can anyone tell me if this is the same as those offered recently on the EVGVG silent auction. 
 http://www.mammothonion.co.uk/shop/3/index.htm
 | 1/22/2011 9:44:35 PM | 
		
            | AXC | Cornwall UK.(50N 5W)300ft. | No the Robinsons one is a Beetroot.The EGVGA one looks like mammoth red mangel to me.
 Unfortunately some seed companies have made a right mess of the descriptions putting pictures of one with descriptions of the other etc.
 | 1/23/2011 6:27:41 AM | 
		
            | Andy H | Brooklyn Corner, Nova Scotia | Thanks for the reply. The seeds I have now produce beets that look like this, mine are much smaller of course
 http://www.recordholders.org/images/vegetables/beet.jpg
 
 Is this a mammoth or a red mangel?
 
 | 1/23/2011 11:35:38 AM | 
		
            | AXC | Cornwall UK.(50N 5W)300ft. | You'd have to ask Jon Evans what it is there is other stuff out there as well.
 | 1/23/2011 12:40:24 PM | 
		
            | Dutch Brad | Netherlands | Those are different as mentioned.
 Many shows won't accept the Mammoth variety the EGVGA distributes.
 
 I've looked into the situation together with Peter Glazebrook and a few others. The British shows will not accept the "Mammoth" because it is not a 'rubra' variety.
 
 I have been assured that the Mammoth is a beetroot and not a mangel, but it is not of the 'rubra' variety but a Beta vulgaris, vulgaris. British and I believe most shows only accept Beta vulgaris, rubra.
 
 You can eat the "Mammoth". It is sold as an edible beetroot in The Netherlands and I have tried it.
 
 What I see from John Evans picture, it is also not a Beta vulgaris, rubra, though.
 
 Botanically speaking there is little or no difference between a mangel or a beetroot I have been told. But the mangels I have been seeing here are a different colour and shape than the "Mammoth".
 
 The EGVGA has decided to only accept 'rubra' varieties for competition purposes starting this year. We will have a non-competition class for the 'Mammoth' variety.
 | 1/24/2011 2:51:15 AM | 
		
            | Dutch Brad | Netherlands | The problem with beetroots is that they can be pretty much any colour between white and black (including yellow, pink, red, orange, purple) and take on quite a few shapes including flat, round, tapered, conical, etc.
 The Mammoth variety can take on different shapes as well. I have had tapered ones but also pretty much square ones.
 
 In every class you almost always have exceptions. Take a look at the mess Guinness has made of the cucumber class and the beetroot class, to mention a few.
 
 Anyways, I'll make sure you get some "Mammoth" and rubra beetroot seeds Andy.
 | 1/24/2011 2:55:24 AM | 
		
            | Andy H | Brooklyn Corner, Nova Scotia | Thanks Brad, you made my day. | 1/24/2011 9:02:46 AM | 
		
            | Spudley (Scott) | Alaska | AXC hows does one get in touch with John Evans? Where is he? | 2/15/2011 6:25:22 PM | 
		
            | Soopr Sizr | Littleton, Colorado | He is in Alaska, here is his contact info
 contact: ALASKA GIANT SEEDS, P.O. Box 1072, Palmer, AK 99645, U.S.A., fax +1-907-746-4781, Home Phone +1-907-746-4781, e-mail [email protected]
 | 2/15/2011 11:04:17 PM | 
		
            | Dutch Brad | Netherlands | He currently lives in both Ireland and the Philippines. You might want to ask here:
 http://www.bountea.com/index.php?id=11&page=Contact_Us
 | 2/16/2011 3:10:57 AM | 
		
            | Andy H | Brooklyn Corner, Nova Scotia | Received my EGVGA seed pak today, very impressed! Thanks Brad for the excellent selection of root vegetable seeds, especially the carrot and parsnip. I may also try to grow a swede, lol. | 2/16/2011 5:21:03 PM | 
		
            | Spudley (Scott) | Alaska | The heaviest beetroot weighed 71.050 kg (156 lb 10.24 oz) and was grown by Piet de Goede (Netherlands) and weighed in Holland, Netherlands on 30 October 2005.   | 2/16/2011 9:01:50 PM | 
		
            | Engel's Great Pumpkins and Carvings | Menomonie, WI ([email protected]) | 156lb beet? wow | 3/7/2011 1:21:39 PM | 
		
            | Dutch Brad | Netherlands | Guinness has been promising for years to revise that world record, but haven't yet.The 156 lb WR was a white sugar beet. I talked to the chairman of that weigh-off and one of the contestants. It is a sugar beet weigh-off and no other beet types are shown there.
 | 3/10/2011 2:57:24 AM | 
		
            | GPW (Crazy-Growers) | Thuringia/Germany | Right! No beetroothttp://www.dedorstigebiet.nl/persbericht.html
 | 3/10/2011 1:58:13 PM | 
		
            | glassman | Lindon, Utah | Trying to grow a big beet this year.  Growing them in pots. I also have some in the ground.  I planted them in Feb. 
 http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-XNTd6yQp8wQ/TZkOkxTy9SI/AAAAAAAADNE/t347eg8K1Ew/s1600/DSC_0057.JPG
 
 The beet in the image is know in a very large pot.  It looks like the beet root splits a little as it grows.  I would be glad to share other images if your interested. Just let me know.
 
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 | 4/10/2011 8:39:57 PM | 
		
        
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