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NE Arkansas

So who's goirds had the large pecan type seeds and what were the genetics if so?

1/3/2019 2:52:11 PM

Mulino, Oregon

My 303.5 had the larger 'winged' seeds. 250.5 Wexler x 190 Wells.
Jim Sherwood

1/3/2019 3:39:51 PM

East Tennessee

384.5 had that type of seeds. Seeds looked just like it’s mother’s seeds which is 108 Niewenhoff.

1/3/2019 5:24:17 PM

Bethlehem CT

Does anyone know the genetics of the 108. I know at one point John had crossed the pecan type with the westfall type. Not sure if the 108 is a descendant of one of his crosses.

1/3/2019 7:06:18 PM

NE Arkansas

My 147 had pecan style seeds from the 250 Wexler too

1/3/2019 7:23:00 PM

Cheyenne,WY

http://bushelgourd.giantstogrow.com/BushelGourdsSeedGenetics.php?PN=108%20Nieuwenhoff%202016

1/3/2019 10:11:30 PM

East Tennessee

Unless im mistaking the 108 came from a 140 Niewenhoff that was pollinated by the 279.5 English. The 140 was 3 or 4 generations of selfing the large variety of BG seeds.

1/3/2019 10:31:36 PM

Bethlehem CT

J lindley do you have a picture of the seeds? Harry Hurley posted this picture in his diary a while back. I am amazed by the variation.
http://www.bigpumpkins.com/Diary/DiaryViewOne.asp?eid=233280

1/4/2019 7:25:25 AM

Bethlehem CT

I have had two different looking types of seeds come from the 177 Westfall seed. The more common type is the seed on the left.
http://www.bigpumpkins.com/Diary/DiaryViewOne.asp?eid=286256

1/4/2019 7:28:58 AM

Bethlehem CT

Pumpkin Shepherd    
Georgetown, Ontario

This thread http://www.bigpumpkins.com/msgboard/ViewThread.asp?b=40&p=533751
got me thinking I should cross the two distinct BG lines and see what happens. I didn't get a PB this year for Bushel Gourd (the weather in June was horrible) but I did manage to get the cross I was looking for. I crossed my 135.5 Nieuwenhoff (large pecan type seed) with a 279.5 English (small long gourd type seed) and grew a light green colored 140 pound gourd. I have about 500 seeds from it drying right now and they all look great and mature. If anyone wants to try this seed next year, especially if you believe in hybrid vigor, then send me a SASB with Canadian postage or just include a couple dollars to cover postage if mailing from US.
John Nieuwenhoff, 37 Stewarttown Road, Georgetown, Ontario, CANADA L7G 4S5 BTW the seeds are large but not as corky or ruffled as the 135.5 was so it looks like somewhere in between the two types.

10/16/2015 2:29:26 PM

croley bend    
Williamsburg,KY

I will give it a try John. Will get a bubble in the mail Monday.

10/17/2015 6:44:18 AM

Dig n Doug    
Webster Groves, MO

John,

I believe the next breakthrough in weight gains will be achieved by crosses similar to yours. I'm definitely interested in your seeds. Doug

1/4/2019 7:35:16 AM

Bethlehem CT

Doug you called it!

1/4/2019 7:35:51 AM

Bethlehem CT

Here is a link to the above conversation.

1/4/2019 7:39:30 AM

Lewistown,IL

Where all the the new BG records set with true plants or where they grafted onto something else.

1/4/2019 10:23:59 AM

Savage, MN

The 265 engel had them and its progeny including Chris Brown's whopper or 331 pounds.

1/13/2019 1:29:54 PM