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NILES , CALIF

It seems everyyear that I grow, I get a couple of secondarys
on my plants that wont grow? or there stunted; there not
like the rest of the secondarys on the plant?

6/19/2014 10:07:48 AM

Anamosa, IA [email protected]

I'm seeing that myself for the first time this year. The vines are pencil thin and the leaves are only 3" or 4" across. Its not every plant, and just a couple side vines on each plant. I have no idea what is causing this.

6/19/2014 10:20:43 AM

Johnston, Iowa

I am and have experienced this issue. First two secondaries on each side are super aggressive, then the rest are wimpy by comparison. Last year I could blame in on the extreme heat and drought. This year I don't have that excuse. Wondering a contributing factor is if the secondaries are too cramped together

6/19/2014 12:23:48 PM

NILES , CALIF

Dan, it could be that they are too cramped together.
some of my other secondarys are just fine that way;
its like some of the secondarys that are stunted just don't have enough vigor for them to grow healthy like the rest.
Anybody else seen this?

6/19/2014 3:15:37 PM

Omaha, Ne.

i got it too. I was wondering if to much merit? chemical toxicity?

6/19/2014 4:05:59 PM

Torrance, Ca.

My whole plants doing this.

6/19/2014 4:52:15 PM

Anamosa, IA [email protected]

I don't think it is chemical. My plants only had one application of garlic, one of eight dust and one root drench of Agri-fos. It hit one plant that was not in a hoop house and some that were in hoops.

6/19/2014 5:02:57 PM

Upa Creek, MO

I had to check what website I was on when I saw the title.

Seriously, happens to me on at least a couple side vines every year. I always thought it was lack of light since I'm shaded half the day.

6/19/2014 5:18:11 PM

Torrance, Ca.

I had a whole Viagra theme going but I deleted it Luke! lol

6/19/2014 5:27:45 PM

Western NY

I get it almost every year. This year I have 1 plant that has all good secondaries and that is the plant that was shaded the least. the 2 spots I double planted, the inside vines on all 4 plants were stunted. I pulled 2 plants, uncovered from shade cloth and blast them with N and they came out of it with help from heat and sun.

6/19/2014 7:31:26 PM

Bethlehem CT

I think getting a few stunted secondaries is inevitable, I get some every year too. In my experience they never really do much. I think many growers just prune them off.

6/20/2014 7:26:59 AM

Lodi, California

I have 2 pencil vines on my larger plant,,, but I do not think my other plant is large enough to have experienced this.

6/20/2014 12:35:11 PM

Rhode Island

if your family had as much inbreeding as these atlantic giants then you might expect a few odd sized limbs as well.
every once in a while you will get this on an occasional plant.
if it was every plant? then id start to worry.
pap

6/21/2014 5:34:36 AM

Waterville, Ohio

Cramped, tight spacing is my guess also. I've noticed that once I start dead heading secondary vines, others pick up steam. Get the side vines to 10-15ft and prune; let the energy go elsewhere.

6/22/2014 11:30:10 PM