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British Columbia, Canada

What do you think are the top 5 seeds of all time?

In my opinion:

1. 898 Knauss '01
2. 1068 Wallace '03
3. 1385 Jutras '07
4. 1161 Rodonis '07
5. 1495 Stelts '10

1/30/2014 3:39:28 AM

Minnesota

1. 1068Wallace
2. 1161Rodonis
3. 1725Harp
4. 2009Wallace
5. 898 Knauss

1/30/2014 3:55:30 AM

Webster, NY

1161 Rodonis
723 Bobier
842 Eaton
985 Werner
1068 Wallace

Just my opinion also...

1/30/2014 6:23:12 AM

Gays Mills, Wisconsin

#1 567.5 Mombert

1/30/2014 6:53:22 AM

Menomonie, WI ([email protected])

567.5 Mombert
846 Calai
723 Bobier
898 Knauss

There are so many pieces of the puzzle, with out these you would not have those.

1/30/2014 7:23:15 AM

Muddy Waters

935 llyod
723 Bobier
1161 Rodonis
1725 Harp
2009 Wallace

Are we talking biggest produced?

or biggest amount of big kins?

1/30/2014 7:30:29 AM

Upa Creek, MO

Top five for what, weight, orange, pumpkin boats, most requested?

1161
1385
1068
2009 (will be known as)
1059 VMG (best orange producer IMO)

1/30/2014 7:34:43 AM

France

I'd add the 998 Pukos to the list.

1/30/2014 9:36:34 AM

British Columbia, Canada

Just top five in general. The seeds that have made the biggest impact / change to this sport.

1/30/2014 9:41:59 AM

Hinckley MN

define "all time" don't all modern AGs go back to 1 or 2 of Howard Dill's seeds? The 575 Dill 88 grew a few records. how about William Warnock's records that stood for 70+ years.

looking back just the last few years, the 1161 and 1385 were the hot seeds and grew WRs.

the 1725 and 2009 are hot now and are growing WRs.

I guess my standard for best seed is which seeds grew the most World Records.

1/30/2014 10:05:12 AM

Minnesota

845Bobier

1/30/2014 10:46:11 AM

Mill Bay, British Columbia

Knowledge is true opinion - Plato

We have no right to express an opinion until we know all of the answers - Kurt Cobain

There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the latter ignorance - Hippocrates

1/30/2014 11:02:36 AM

Preston CT

845
1068
1385
1725
2009

1/30/2014 1:59:05 PM

Gays Mills, Wisconsin

Glenn Dixon,
Why the need to imply that someone who expresses an opinion is ignorant?
Be nice :)
John Barlow

1/30/2014 2:15:50 PM

Mill Bay, British Columbia

John, those are just quotes from other men, not an opinion of mine...

But thanks for calling me out...

1/30/2014 2:33:55 PM

Little-TON - Colorado

1068
1365
1725
1495
2009

1/30/2014 3:20:35 PM

Rhode Island

all great answers.i think in its hay day the 1068 certainly helped a lot of average growers become good to great growers.i know it certainly did for ron and i.

same can be said for the 845 bobier. another great seed.

we must also remember that along with the greatest seed argument we realize that seeds grown before the computer age and bp.c did not get on the info highway like todays results.
who know how many older seeds did great and we never knew about it?

pap

1/30/2014 3:42:51 PM

Long Island,New York

895Hester*
935Lloyd
567.5Mombert
1068Wallace
2009Wallace

1/30/2014 4:35:27 PM

Lodi, California

We're talking about the 5 seeds that made growing what it is today? If so, then here are the seeds found in many of the top genetics today.

#5 898 Knauss
#4 845 Bobbier
#3 1385 Jutras, the king of all modern genetics
#2 1068 Wallace, found in many of the top genetics today.
#1,,,,, has to go to,,,,,,,, the first AG'S ever produced by Howard Dill. The sport wouldn't be here without them.

Now if you are talking about the BEST seeds ever in recent time. I will not order them from 1 to 5 as it os very hard to know which seed is the absolute best seed.

2009 Wallace
220 Debacco
1495 Stelts
1623 Wallace
1725 Harp

1/30/2014 5:17:04 PM

Webster, NY

Good call on #1 Ashton...

1/30/2014 5:22:30 PM

Bethlehem CT

1068
1385
1725
2009 Just a guess with this one, next year will be the true test. Could be the 220 or several others.

1/30/2014 5:56:11 PM

BC, Canada

On pumpkin fanatic site the seed statistics and the grower metrics are quite interesting. The most used seeds are, as you might expect, many of the ones mentioned here.

I constantly wonder how much of the recent size gains is from genetic selection and how much is from newer growing techniques.
Makes me think that maybe some of the older seeds that were major advances still have some potential to be crossed into one of the newer biggies. It would be a two year project and would require more space than I have.

1/30/2014 7:16:30 PM

Lodi, California

Cavitysearch,

I was wondering the same thing. Of course, that would be backwords breeding. I like all of the newer hot genetics.

1/30/2014 8:09:26 PM

Midway, UT

Whatever seed grew my last personal best is the greatest of al time. But the seeds that have had the greatest influence:

845
1068
1385
1725
2009

Each of those seeds started a new generation. Also noteworthy: 1370, 1161, 1495.

1/30/2014 8:23:48 PM

Waterville, Ohio

It's been done with the 898 Knauss a few times, I know Daletas has a few crosses with the 898 and newer seeds. Ie. 1502 Daletas (1725 Harp x 898 Knauss)

1/30/2014 8:33:41 PM

South East

here's 5 that get less hits, but were just as essential in getting where we are now;

842 and 1446 eaton
1420 larue
846 calai
1409 miller

1/30/2014 11:58:35 PM

Colorado

567.5 mombert
846.5 calai
723 bobier
845 bobier
1370 rose
1068 wallace
1385 jutras
1725 harp
2009 wallace -oops thats more than 5-but theyre all major players

1/31/2014 12:45:59 AM

Owensboro, Ky.

Sorry to change the subject, but what will the list look like next year?!!! Not changed, but tweaked? What will it look like next year? Snowball & 2032? or whatever it was? Peace, Wayne

1/31/2014 12:51:06 AM

Lodi, California

220 is already on the top seeds list. Besides the 2009 and 1495 it seems to bring in the most money, and it was proven to 2 10709 lovers out of 7 total grown I think?

1/31/2014 9:59:06 AM

Lodi, California

2 1700 pounders,,,, autocorrect.

1/31/2014 10:00:09 AM

Would one of the criteria for a great seed be what lasting impact it has on future generations? If a seed is a great producer, can it really be one of the great seeds until its' offspring prove out?

2/1/2014 9:51:16 AM

Littleton Co Usa

991
1495
220
2009
1161

2/1/2014 10:40:44 AM

nOVA sCOTIA

No brainer!!The top 5 seeds that have made the greatest impact are
1385Jutras grew the WR 1725 Harp 2009
1161 Rodonis grew the WR 1810 Stevens 2010
1404 Bryson grew the WR 1818 Bryson 2011
1725 Harp grew the WR 2009 Wallace 2012
2009 Wallace grew the WR 2032 Mathison 2013

2/1/2014 6:03:37 PM