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ShagHarbour n,s canada

hello all i have another dilly of a question i want to grow a carl graham 1800+ plant along side its pollinator i am pressed for space ..would it be even possible to get a nice big fruit if i trimed at least the first 10 vines off one side? i brain stormed this up after reading a small un detailed section in my giant pumpkin 3 book

3/30/2013 6:29:54 PM

Western PA

Absolutely possible, especially if your soil is up to par. I grew a 645 in 2010 on a small flag pattern.My plant had side vines on only on side and were 6-7 foot long.190 square feet total.

3/30/2013 8:14:34 PM

Piqua, Ohio

in 2009 i grew 982 on a 10x20 flag pattern

3/30/2013 10:36:51 PM

Mill Bay, British Columbia

Same here 728 lbs, 808 lbs and a few more 500-600 lbs all grown over the years in a flag pattern with about 20' x 12' and 15' x 12'...

3/30/2013 11:05:36 PM

Rhode Island

anything is possible in this hobby.

3/31/2013 9:30:24 AM

Mnt.pleasant ,tennessee

What bout traing one side to grow to the other.

3/31/2013 10:40:31 AM

Frankfort Ohio

I grew a 1141 last year I planted my plant 12 feet in from edge trained my secondary main to go straight back got extra vines from it turned out to be 750 sq feet i spaced my vines on two plants so there vines had room to go between each other

3/31/2013 1:25:53 PM

Minnesota

@ the anything is possible.. Last year I pollinated my 1421 stelts with "front range" black angus. Expecting some explosive midsummer grazing growth.
http://www.gardenrant.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/03/31/calfpumpkin.jpg

3/31/2013 1:28:13 PM

nOVA sCOTIA

glad i'm not strapped for space.I don't think i could sleep if i had to cut beautiful, healthy,secondaries off my plant

3/31/2013 2:09:19 PM

BC, Canada

Main, 2nds, 3rds, back mains, flag, xmas tree, double helix. ? What's best and why I know from being an avid long term gardener that a lot can be packed into a small space if it is intensely managed. Is the trick on a small plot greater density of vines and leaves or the vine pattern? As someone trying to learn "what makes AGs grow big", as we all are I assume, my question would be "which vines feed or add to the fruits growth? How far away can a vine be from the fruit and still add to its growth.
2 plants in a small plot? As an aside to this discussion, I know from reading about rice crops that having two different plants roots touch each other may not be a good idea. It is suggested that some plants have a mechanism for sensing competition from other surrounding plants causing earlier and smaller crops. In rice it was discovered that greater spacing provided larger yields.

If the farthest away vines still add, just slower, is this a way to moderate fluid and nutrient uptake and to some degree modulate the rate of expansion of the fruit and help to have a control over splitting.
I dunno ? Just here taking soaking up info
thanks

3/31/2013 3:23:49 PM

BC, Canada

Cueball, not to hijack your thread here but I was wondering about growth on smaller plots and if there been much discussion or experimentation with PGRs to shorten node spacing and tighten up the plants for smaller spaces?
There was a thread about Forchlorfenuron a short while back, but there are many different PGRs available.
Now you can the thread back
I'm rooting for you Cueball, I'm hoping to get that seed from you for next year
Ever notice how it's always next year? But it is super sunny here today and I had better get back in the garden! Wife's yelling at me.

3/31/2013 6:29:18 PM