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Nova Scotia

right now i only have room for 1 plant, i started 3 this fall all of which produced double vines on me. so right now i have a plant with several mutations due to i suppose genetic damage from chemicals used on it's parents. now if i self it , will this genetic damage right itself, (if no chemicals are used) or will it alway's produce mutations?

11/20/2003 3:38:14 PM

Pumpkintown, SC

I don't think anyone can answer that question with any degree of assurity. What I, with my limited knowledge, and unlimited imagination would say, is yes. Most likely it will right itself as you say. The chances of all the genes responsible for those traits aligning themselves in exactly the same manner that produced your mutations would be quite unlikely. However, your chances(of eliminating any mutations) would be even better if you chose another seed all together. As low as the chances might be, it probably has a greater chance of replicating those mutations than another seed that has never showed them. That would be how I would look at it, BF

11/20/2003 5:40:58 PM

Pumpkintown, SC

PS. Genetic damage from chemicals? I'm still a little lost on the facts of that one, BF

11/20/2003 5:42:49 PM

Appalachian Mtns.

Yea, me too
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11/20/2003 8:10:28 PM

Atlanta, Georgia

Why don't you say exactly which seed you are talking about?
Without that info nothing can be solved at all in this thread.
Michel

11/21/2003 2:50:55 AM

Nova Scotia

714 bobier

11/21/2003 1:52:05 PM

That State Up North

and more importantly, what chemicals are you talking about, and what treatment did you make on the parants, need more info to make some analysis

Nic Welty

11/21/2003 4:17:26 PM

Nova Scotia

as you can see the seed is bobiers so only he know's what pesticides, fungicides and chemical fertilizers he used.

11/21/2003 4:42:30 PM

Pumpkintown, SC

I believe it would be pretty safe to say it probably wasn't any "cides" that has led to your mutants. I would start/continue deadheading one of the two vines in your "double vine" or if possible deadhead it all together in favor of starting a new main. Several big pumpkins have been grown from vines that have originally doubled.
If you have no other pollen available, self it(and I think the odds are on your side) and hope the genes don't align as they did before. My 2 cents, BF

11/21/2003 5:43:57 PM

Appalachian Mtns.

unless HD used heavy amounts of PGR on the pumpkins, I would think the mutations would be naturally occuring, they were there anyway..can't imagine synthetic chemicals altering genetics although I guess anything is possible

11/21/2003 6:19:48 PM

Nova Scotia

human genetics are easly damaged when exposed to chemicals or even uv light and they show up in deformed children

11/21/2003 9:41:18 PM

Spanish Ontario

mr T my 1098 ciliberto last year flat an doubled twice cut off at stump an started secondary as maim had not bad succes due to late germination grew 595 est KEN

11/22/2003 10:31:15 PM