AG Genetics and Breeding
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Subject: Dream Crosses
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Milford |
milford, CT,
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Just Curious..If you could make a "Dream Cross"..what would it be? With all the great seeds now available from the last 3 years there are so many choices when deciding what crosses to make. Also there seem to be some trends as far as preferred females and preferred male pollinators. For example: for a few years the 898 was used almost exclusively as a male pollinator...are any of the newer seeds showing results as male pollinators. Mark
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1/8/2008 3:35:33 PM
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Dr.Greenthumb |
Maine
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705 stelts x 998 pukos and reverse
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1/8/2008 3:46:37 PM
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Vineman |
Eugene,OR
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227 Leland x 1041 McKie.
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1/8/2008 4:23:22 PM
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Jordan Rivington (JRO) |
Windsor, Ontario, Canada
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1068 Wallace x 664 Liggett
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1/8/2008 4:25:57 PM
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cojoe |
Colorado
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1385 jutras x806 mckie and 1407hemphill x1207 young.sorry thats two-couldnt help it.
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1/8/2008 4:33:34 PM
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cojoe |
Colorado
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842 eaton x1068 wallace appears to be a successful cross for heavy otc pumpkins.either parent has been good as a pollinator
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1/8/2008 4:38:42 PM
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Richard |
Minnesota
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1689 Jutras X 1470 Wallace
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1/8/2008 4:59:29 PM
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Marvin11 |
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1689 jutras + 1068 wallace big and pretty in one
marvin
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1/8/2008 5:04:33 PM
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Captain Cold Weather |
Boulder County Colorado USA planet Earth
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1502x998
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1/8/2008 5:11:20 PM
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LIpumpkin |
Long Island,New York
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848MacKenzie* x Blue Whale
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1/8/2008 5:12:00 PM
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Captain Cold Weather |
Boulder County Colorado USA planet Earth
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104 jordan grimes x 275 vanhook
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1/8/2008 5:15:49 PM
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Dennis M. |
Manchester,N.H.
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1450 Wallace x 998 Pukos
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1/8/2008 5:18:51 PM
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WiZZy |
Little-TON - Colorado
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1041 McKie x 898 Knauss
1407 Hemphill X 1502 Wallace
842 Eaton X 1407 Hemphill or 898 Knauss
946.5 Gertz X 898 Knauss......joe
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1/8/2008 5:20:42 PM
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Doug14 |
Minnesota(dw447@fastmail.fm)
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1402.5 Bosworth X 1041.5 McKie 1502 Wallace X 1402.5 Bosworth
For color.... 769 Lombardi X 603.5 Muller
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1/8/2008 5:23:22 PM
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MNPG(Al) |
Mn
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834.8 Willemse 2001 X 5th or 6th generation selfed squash line.....hybrid vigor galore...
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1/8/2008 5:32:44 PM
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Gads |
Deer Park WA
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Hay MN Pumpkingrower nice cross, I know where to find the squash seed if you can come up with 834.8!
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1/8/2008 5:50:40 PM
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Frank 4 |
Coventry R.I.
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1689 Jutras x 1470 Wallace
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1/8/2008 6:29:41 PM
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SmallTownUSA |
Alex, IN
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1402 Bosworth X 1468 Richards and the reverse.
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1/8/2008 6:44:45 PM
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Andy W |
Western NY
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801 Stelts x 865 Mettler 792 Wolf x 1402.5 Bosworth
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1/8/2008 6:45:57 PM
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TruckTech1471 |
South Bloomfield, Ohio
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664.5 Liggett x 898 Knauss or 1407 Hemphill
664.5 Liggett x 985 Werner
Cojoe, Buddy Conley did a 842 x 1068 cross. It is the 1177 Conley.
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1/8/2008 6:47:26 PM
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Silly Seeds |
Port Elgin, Ontario, Canada
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lol g
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1/8/2008 6:50:14 PM
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Doug14 |
Minnesota(dw447@fastmail.fm)
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I agree Mikkal.
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1/8/2008 6:54:23 PM
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Lee Taylor |
Nicholls Georgia
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1524.5 liggett x 1689 jutras
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1/8/2008 7:01:01 PM
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Jason D |
Georgia
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1041 Mckie x 1450 Wallace..oooops Van Hooks already done that cross..that seeds gonna hit some dirt in Georgia this year I here
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1/8/2008 7:15:07 PM
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Iowegian |
Anamosa, IA BPIowegian@aol.com
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I like Tom Privitera's 998Pukos x 1068 Wallace and reverse crosses, and Don Young's 1370 Rose X 1068 Wallace. Doesn't hurt that I have all of these to grow next year.
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1/8/2008 7:16:10 PM
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scbbbc |
Santa Rosa California
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639 pugh x 227 leland
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1/8/2008 7:17:28 PM
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LongmontPete |
Colorado
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772.2 Poirier X 1689 Jutras
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1/8/2008 7:25:08 PM
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Brooks B |
Ohio
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1068 Wallace x 1068 Wallace
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1/8/2008 7:40:02 PM
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Brooks B |
Ohio
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1450 Wallace x 1402 Bosworth
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1/8/2008 7:42:21 PM
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Mr.D & Me |
ordinary,VA
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I like Devan's and Andy's pick!
1566 x 1556 thanks to Bill & Quinn! 1556 x 1566 1101 x 1250 thanks to Bill & Todd 1152 x 500 thanks to Glenna & Bill 694 x 1402 thanks to Mark & Brooks 1096 x 1180 thanks to Tom & Joe
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1/8/2008 8:12:23 PM
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Ron Rahe (uncron1@hotmail.com) |
Cincinnati,OH
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Brooks, Go for that 1450 this weekend.
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1/8/2008 8:20:48 PM
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Kevin Snyder (TEAM HAMMER) |
Kevinstinindians@yahoo.com
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Cojoe, I plan on doing the 1385 x 806 this year too.
I'd like to do a 1450 Wallace x 1385 Jutras and 1446 Werner x 1450 Wallace. But I probably won't be able to get my hands on a 1450.
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1/8/2008 8:29:51 PM
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Andy H |
Brooklyn Corner, Nova Scotia
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WHIZ I like your thinking. Phil Hunt's 842 x 898 is going in my patch.
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1/8/2008 8:40:28 PM
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paul f |
Southeast Texas
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1068 papez(1068wallace x sib) 1002 garrel(1068 wallace x sib) i'm growing them and try to cross them.
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1/8/2008 8:52:36 PM
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MOpumpkins |
Springfield, Missouri
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I like 1631.5 McKie, 1041.5 McKie, and the 644 Liggett anything with these are good. 644 pollinator
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1/8/2008 9:02:20 PM
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TruckTech1471 |
South Bloomfield, Ohio
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Logan,
I believe you mean the 664.5 Liggett. If you do, keep in mind the 664.5 has always done best on the female side. I know of no significant cross where it was the pollinator.
If you would like a 664.5 cross with the 664.5 as the pollinator, I have a 1030 Armstrong x 664.5 Liggett. Let me know if interested.
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1/8/2008 9:42:58 PM
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UnkaDan |
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Joe,,,check out the 1248.8 Ford'05,,,and underplanted seed that will see more dirt this year..897.5 Davies X 664.5 Liggett
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1/8/2008 9:59:45 PM
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Mr.D & Me |
ordinary,VA
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Jim Ford has made some great crosses.
1138dmg 1248x897 23% heavy 1082 1248x998 1065 1225x1370 1062 1231x998 906 897x1370 840 1370x1225 just to name a few
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1/8/2008 11:01:02 PM
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pumpkinhead vic |
Mt Vernon Ky
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1402.5 Bosworth x 1450 which i am doing this year if i can get some from James and jonh 1068 papez x 1402 792 wolf x 1412 Mckie my wife wants this 1 1468 richards x 1248 ford 695 x ???? 1068laure ???? 1041 x ???? and 8 more mexicans going to be busy
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1/8/2008 11:25:27 PM
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Starrfarms |
Pleasant Hill, Or
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227 Leland (clone) x 1041.5 Mckie 1010 Daletas x 1423.5 Wallace
Too many incredible seeds to choose!
Oh Ya, can't forget this one (if I had a 723!)
723 Bobier x 1370 Rose and reverse
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1/9/2008 12:30:54 AM
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UnkaDan |
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Clarence Koch did that "reverse" in '06 Thadd,,,his 1039
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1/9/2008 3:09:42 AM
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artek |
Warszawa Poland
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Thadd 840 Parks (723 x 1370)
I think that my dream cross is 998 Pukos x 898 ( Steve Daletas did this cross so I think that I should plant it if I get one)
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1/9/2008 7:56:02 AM
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STEVE Z |
Berlin,mi.(zuhlke2@hotmail.com)
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hey G do you have any of those Blue Whale seeds. :-)
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1/9/2008 8:25:00 AM
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Rob T |
Somers, CT
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Hilary and Mitt Romney.
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1/9/2008 9:09:17 AM
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CliffWarren |
Pocatello (cliffwarren@yahoo.com)
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Ah, no............
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1/9/2008 9:22:38 AM
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cojoe |
Colorado
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rob,its dream crosses.Not bad dream crosses
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1/9/2008 10:45:52 AM
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Jason D |
Georgia
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Worse cross ever by Rob T
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1/9/2008 10:57:41 AM
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Rob T |
Somers, CT
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Sorry, I was in the middle of a nightmare and misunderstood the question. Won't happen again.
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1/9/2008 11:08:21 AM
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Jason D |
Georgia
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Funny stuff Rob Im glad that the nightmares over.
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1/9/2008 1:26:42 PM
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Mr.D & Me |
ordinary,VA
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Rob that cross would abort for sure
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1/9/2008 2:51:20 PM
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~Duane~ |
ExtremeVegetables.com
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1450 Wallace "have it" X 1306 Jutras "need it"
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1/9/2008 4:10:13 PM
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Milford |
milford, CT,
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1450 x 998.....998 x 1450.... 998 x 998....1450 x 1450 very isolated lines!!!
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1/9/2008 4:34:27 PM
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TruckTech1471 |
South Bloomfield, Ohio
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Thanks unkadan! BTW, hope you're doing well.
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1/9/2008 8:07:29 PM
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just bill ( team Pettit ) |
Adams County
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1566 Rodonis X 1537 Stelts And back
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1/9/2008 10:04:21 PM
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Snake Oil |
Pumpkintown, SC
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Well, how'bout the reverse cross then, Mitt x Hilary?
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1/9/2008 10:27:01 PM
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Vader |
western PA
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Hillary is capable of being the pollinator too.
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1/10/2008 5:27:00 AM
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maryscha |
Austria (Europe)
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1253 Sperry 2004 x 1173.4 Macari 2004 1458 Whittier 2003 x 1469 Checkon 2005 610 Scharf 2007 x 1420.5 Larue 2004
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1/10/2008 6:42:03 AM
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Brooks B |
Ohio
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what do you get when you cross Hillary x Bill? = Hillbilly?
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1/10/2008 9:03:19 AM
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christrules |
Midwest
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1468 Richards x 1248 Ford 1468 Richards x 1124 McMullen
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1/12/2008 7:02:16 PM
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sambo |
Sparta, NC
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How about a 1689 Jutras x 1631.5 McKie cross.
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1/12/2008 9:54:07 PM
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Never to small (josh) |
Sparks, NV
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help me i am new and confused
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2/6/2008 9:57:00 PM
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jonas |
Belgium
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1041,5 mc kie x 1068 wallace
1068 wallace x 998,6 pukos
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2/11/2008 2:43:32 PM
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meathead320 |
Bemidji Minnesota
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It already exists, the 1470 Wallace 2007, IS a 1502 (grown from a 1068) with 998.6 Pukos as the male.
One thing on shape too, the 998 tends to throw fruit that have concave blossom ends (thick internal however, and the 1068 line (including the 1502) tend to throw fruit with convex blossom ends.
Mixing the two would, I assume, cancel eachother out, and make for fruit with a nice flat blossom end, very thick too, and blow out resistant.
That is just what I would assume from looking at photos of the two lines.
I would not be shocked if the first 1700+ freak comes from the 1470.
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4/9/2008 1:12:58 AM
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