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Central Pennsylvania lauralie1978@yahoo.com

What would have the nicest orange, round, and big offspring? Any suggestions on what seeds I should be seeking?

Also,
I have a 500 Pencil '05 -455 Liggett '01 X Self(perfect shape) and a 621 Zuhlke '05 - 1101 Northrup X Self (perfect color). If I crossed them, what are the chances of perfect shape and color from the next generation of seeds?

1/6/2007 2:14:09 AM

Dillsburg, PA

Lauralie, I have selfed 603 Muller seeds your welcome to. IMO nothing beats them for color and shape. You close to Dillsburg?

1/6/2007 6:50:54 AM

Dillsburg, PA

When you play with genetics the outcome can be a coin toss. No one can predict the exact outcome until the crossed seed has been grown a few times. You would think that two really orange pumpkins that are crossed together would make one pretty pumpkin. That doesn't happen all the time. The only advice I can give you is make your crosses and then grow them the next year and see how they turn out. Genetics are unpredictable.

1/6/2007 7:12:55 AM

Antigonish,Nova Scotia,Canada

Jeff, I have been looking for a 603 Muller seed for a few weeks now.....any leads???? E-mail addy is:
watimmons@ns.sympatico.ca
Bill

1/6/2007 10:57:22 AM

Cincinnati,OH

If I had my pick I would use the 670 Daigle.
It has produced alot of round orange ones consistently the last few years.
As far as unproven I like the cross on the 790 Bhaskaran (670 Daigle x 781.5 Frantz) available at pumpkinpost.com
You could use the 606 Clark (mother of the 1099 Clark)
but you don't know how often it will grow a repeat pumpkin like the 1099 because not enough people have grown it.

1/6/2007 1:17:55 PM

Central Pennsylvania lauralie1978@yahoo.com

Thanks! I would like to try the 603 Muller selfed. My email is:

lauralie1978@yahoo.com

I live in Mifflinburg, I'm not sure where Dillsburg is.

Thanks for the advice guys!

1/6/2007 1:58:26 PM

Dillsburg, PA

Sorry Papa Bill, The only place I've seen 603's at is auctions on occasion.

1/6/2007 2:49:42 PM

Santa Rosa, CA

There is a 603.5 Muller 03 in Lot #19 (Who Loves Orange!) tonight in the N.Y.S.G.P.G.A. auction.

1/6/2007 4:25:41 PM

Little-TON - Colorado

Bubble me and Ill send you a nice 1233.5 Reiss seed selfed, from my 369. Very dark orange, almost perfect round, and hail tested!. LongMont Petes went 511......

Have seeds left.......TheWizard@ColoradoPumpkins.com

1/6/2007 5:26:31 PM

Linwood, NC

Lauralie, I have some of my 695 Holder 06 seeds left. That is from a 1225 Jutras x 869.5 Calai. Mine had a nice color already, and was pretty round also. The 869.5 should keep and improve the orange color. If you would like, email me for my addy. jwelty15@lexcominc.net Brad

1/6/2007 9:47:35 PM

Hudsonville, Michigan (michiganpumpkins@sbcglobal.net)

1029 Kurilich or 802 Kurilich...
Throws pretty consistent orange/red fruit. Great shape, distinctive high blossom end.

1/6/2007 9:52:44 PM

Little Compton, R.I.

1225 Jutra....

1/7/2007 1:00:47 AM

N.Benton/Ohio

i have seen several pumpkins grown off the 603 muller. as far as shape and color i think it has been one of the great examples for this.

1/7/2007 1:00:31 PM

Auburn Maine, USA

781 frantz

1/8/2007 8:08:13 PM

maine USA

And Randall it was a beauty!

1/9/2007 12:10:59 AM

The Garden State

JeffL

I would be interested in a selfed 603 Muller if you had any left. My email is atwetzel99@comcast.net...thanks

1/9/2007 12:53:42 PM

Minnesota(dw447@fastmail.fm)

Anyone grow Paul Rys' seeds? Or see any of his pumpkins? His seeds are offered at the PNW seed auction. 567.5 Mombert and 801.5 Stelts genetics. Maybe an inbred line of orange?

1/9/2007 12:54:24 PM

Pocatello (cliffwarren@yahoo.com)

I would like more info on Paul Rys and this project. Seems like he's following in the footsteps of Helmut Laemelle.

1/9/2007 1:12:30 PM

Minnesota(dw447@fastmail.fm)

Cliff,
I'll start post here regarding it.

1/9/2007 2:17:50 PM

Georgia

KathyT grew a nice 800 pounder and it was in good shape and hads some good orange in it. I believe next year itll break 1000 pounds and itll be a nice looking pumpkin.

1/9/2007 3:55:12 PM

Kuna, Id.

I ditto Cliff would like to know more

1/10/2007 4:16:00 PM

Mill Bay, British Columbia

The 689.5 Sandercock (869.5 Calai X self) produced the 310 Marining (689.5 X self) for a friend of mine and is chock full of round and orange!!

Alot of 1st time growers have grown the 310 into nice big, round and very very orange fruit. How can you not like the 869.5 Calai selfed twice??

I've got a few seeds left for anyone that wants to give it a try. Look in my 2005 diary for pics.....Glenn

1/11/2007 1:45:51 AM

Syracuse, NY

thanks for that post----i sort of joked to Ned S. as
i sent him an email and mused about what the
offspring would be from a 689.5 selfed...RED????
well, that is what the resulting fruits SHOULD be, lol----eric g

1/11/2007 7:15:29 PM

Minnesota(dw447@fastmail.fm)

I'll add the 1233.5 Reiss to this list as well. I won the "prettiest" prize at a local weighoff. It had nice color and shape, and went over 25% heavy to the chart(unfortunately no seeds). Mr. Reiss posted a pic of his 1233.5 offspring on the AGGC(600+ lbs.). It is one of the most beautiful pumpkins I've seed pictured. Great, tall, round shape, and shiny orange! Also more than 10% heavy to the chart. The 1233.5 didn't have an awesome first year IMO, but I think there's some potential there for some beauties.

1/11/2007 9:52:08 PM

Minnesota(dw447@fastmail.fm)

I've seen pictured(not seed.. maybe saw would fit..LOL).
Seeing the Reiss pumpkin grown off the 1233.5, has put some added value to the 1233.5 seed for me personally.

1/11/2007 10:16:50 PM

Little-TON - Colorado

Selfed 1233.5 Reiss seeds still avail, and another is going in the ground this year for me. Thinking on which seed to cross it with......? To add to its already great lineage, right now thinking either the 364 Webster, WOW I really like the 1191 Zunino's possibility...then Glenn perhaps putting selfed 869.5 Calai, What do you all think? Then there is this Paul Rys seed? Thoughts....?

1/12/2007 9:36:36 AM