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Mt Vernon Ky

what would be a good cross for a 1097 beachy

12/28/2005 4:05:23 PM

Eddyz@efirehose.net

1354 Checkon

12/28/2005 4:17:11 PM

Warwood

1370 Rose

12/28/2005 7:12:38 PM

Minnesota(dw447@fastmail.fm)

Maybe something with a lot of 898 Knauss in it.
Also 735 Pukos.

12/28/2005 10:35:22 PM

Romney West By God Virginia

It depends on what you are looking for. A more easily obtainable seed that should make an interesting cross would be the 1367.5 Rose. It the reverse cross of the 1097.

12/28/2005 11:57:08 PM

Syracuse, NY

well, i'll find out if my 1097.5 X 582 Hester 394 est.
is a good cross in '06!
smack that 1097.5
with one of the Langevin
371.8s...grew a Lishness 1114.
i forget cross at this hour, lol...zzzzzzzzzzz.....zzzzz....

12/29/2005 2:16:42 AM

Pumpkintown, SC

What about selfing it? Too boring for most though...BF

12/29/2005 3:25:33 AM

Ohio

ahhh, one of my favorite seeds,how about the 845 Bobier.

12/29/2005 4:47:49 AM

Ohio

or hey Vic!, how about a 845 Bosworth for crying out loud!,lol

12/29/2005 5:07:08 AM

Picton,ON (j.vincent@xplornet.ca)

1097's somtimes can be light in colour and also weigh close to the estimate or a little light. So I would cross Orange and heavy. I grew the 1097 this year and crossed it with the 1076 Werner for these reasons. The fruit on my 1076 was a nice mottled orange and went 13% heavy.
The 898 cross should work well for weight, but forget colour. The 1370 would work. Both these seeds are impossible to get unless you have lots of cash. Maybe consider something with 846 Calai in the background, perhaps 670 Dagle, 500 Northrup, 1125 Frantz.

12/29/2005 9:20:33 AM

Long Island,New York

I crossed my bright red-orange 1097 fruit with a little known Toftness cross that also produced great orange-calai mottle....the 161Toftness02 side vine seed cross fruit...707Toftnes(846x723) x 846Calai cross. So thats a 1097(845x723) x (846x723)x846 cross....looks good on paper....

12/29/2005 10:24:08 AM

Indiana

What about the 1432 Carlson/Peterson it is already a selfed 1097 beachy. Or even better the 1053.5 Dieffenbaugher it is a selfed 1432 Carlson/Peterson There are 2 other selfed 1432 Carlson/Peterson on the AGGC. I think one of those back crosses would make some great seeds! If you do them dibbs on a seed or two.

12/29/2005 11:00:04 AM

Trumbull, CT 06611, USA

I made an 898 x 1097 cross this year that may be good to try. It was 734.6 lbs. I think this is the first cross made. I do think there are reverse crosses though, 1097 x 898

12/29/2005 11:48:53 AM

Knopp, Germany

i agree with G, looks good on paper, hopefully also good in my garden

12/29/2005 12:47:31 PM

Lloydminster/AB

The one I contemplated was the 1029 Nesbitt(723x845). Anyone ever plant that one?

12/29/2005 3:32:31 PM

Mn

734.6 would be a good seed to plant next year.

12/29/2005 4:59:18 PM

Walkerton Ont

i had one started don the 1029 was one of my best plants. It got wrecked while transplanting. I still have one left

12/30/2005 11:02:29 AM

Mt Vernon Ky

thanks for all the input now how do i get a 1354 Checkon or a 1370 Rose or 1432 Carlson/Peterson

12/31/2005 2:26:00 PM

Indiana

the 1370 is gonna be hard to get! im not sure about the 1432 but you may be able to get a 1053.5 Dieffenbaugher easier. go to the seed exchange board and ask.

Steve

1/1/2006 10:08:55 AM

Deer Park WA

Gadberry 611.4* (sibbed 823* Gadberry)...

1/3/2006 3:56:53 PM

Greencastle, PA

crossing the 1097 with a 1432 or 1053.5 would be the last crosses I would do. The 1097 is known to split, so crossing it with the 1432 which split or the 1053.5 which has a DMG designation would probably produce a seed with a huge split risk. I personally like the 1314 Beauchemin, and I don't think you could go wrong with the 1354 Checkon, though it may not be the best cross to go heavy OTC. Also regarding splitting; how the 1469 didn't split amazes me. The 1061 Ciliberto maybe, or a second or third generation 895 Hester. The 869 Calai would be nice too... depends on what you're looking for.
Tom

1/3/2006 4:23:35 PM