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Ohio

whats everyones opinion on this cross? Me and James Carlson was just talking about this cross.

If this cross goes green,ohhhhh man! Im growing it just for the surprise!

Brooks

2/9/2005 11:04:34 AM

Long Island,New York

its a rare thing to get a squash from a green x orange cross

2/9/2005 2:09:40 PM

Ohio

So whats the chances on it being a dark green like 20% or less?

2/9/2005 3:56:52 PM

Garden State Pumpkins

Wow G..Think it's more likely going the other way? orange X green?

2/9/2005 5:45:51 PM

Appalachian Mtns.

Whatever color it is, it should go *way* heavy OTC. Those 895.5* genetics are pretty potent in their own right, hence the reason for the cross!

2/10/2005 12:08:34 AM

Ohio

Hence the reason hell, could be a green jacket,lol

The 875,s go heavy too?

2/11/2005 4:36:00 AM

Ohio

*correction: 675's

2/11/2005 4:37:26 AM

Ohio

G, Chances better for it going green if its a orange x green cross then?

2/11/2005 4:39:14 AM

Syracuse, NY

i believe that the weigh it works is,
if BOTH plants that you are crossing have the recessive green-producing
gene in their makeup at all, the outcome in the following year's crop will more than likely be squash. that is why,
i think, you always see that squash seeds are from SELFED or SIBBED parents, because we are trying to continue the lineage that exhibits the recessive green gene.
isn't the 895.5 Hester a 900.5 Lyons by SIB? okay, so the offspring from that will be squash. and, probably any selfed or sibbed fruits' seeds will produce squash also.

crossing a pumpkin plant with a known squash plant
can at best be even more of a craps-shoot than usual
as to what the outcome will be, in the following years' offspring. but, good luck with it......eric

2/14/2005 2:50:47 AM

Hilpoltstein, Bavaria, Germany

don't the 895.5 X selfs or sibs produce orange?

2/14/2005 10:27:21 AM

Long Island,New York

I learned a few years ago to throw all the rules out the window when it comes to color. Some stay green...some dont. Some green genes are strong...some are weak and independent of the deepness of the green. Follow the seeds record is your best bet. 616Corkums and 900Lyons x self or sibs even when both are green are enough trouble to make a squasher pull his hair out. My orange x green cross in 2000 threw a squash first try...then 16 straight pumpkins. Go figure...................

2/14/2005 3:20:32 PM

Ontario, Canada.

Brooks, The 675 is twice sibbed and should be strong green producer on its own. Introduction of orange will most lilkely result in orange. You might look to cross it with the largest non-related, something far removed from its family tree, true greenie. This may produce a good future green seed that could have potential.

Martin, I looked at the largest four selfed or sibbed fruit off the 895 and all were green. Included was the darkest green fruit, the 834 Gadberry.

Pumpkinpal2, This maybe the answer to turning the 611.5* Hester back to its green roots. Sib it back to green. This fruit has green all over its family tree but yet it throughs orange consistantly. No one has sibbed it yet...

2/14/2005 4:33:15 PM

Indiana

Never once had a problem with the simple model here.

Tom

2/14/2005 5:53:07 PM

Greencastle, PA

it seems to me that sometime the color genes have incomplete dominance (explaining why the 900 Lyons would produce pumpkins and also why we have squmpkins). Although other timesthe green gene appears recessive. First the dominance of genes must be determined before we can really come up with an accurate prediction of phenotypes.
Tom

2/14/2005 6:48:34 PM

Syracuse, NY

thanks for the tip, but i do not have a 611.5*--wish i did!
i'll be growing the 895.5* in '05., i think, but if anyone else has the 611.5*, there's your advice from kahuna3! eric

2/16/2005 1:47:06 PM