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steveopp

St. Marys,OH

Looking for a 1813 Northrup seed. Anyone have one available?

12/14/2014 9:51:14 AM

Ludwig Ammer

Eurasia

Ask Peter Burdon in Goodwood Ontario for seed of his selfed 1813, which grew 11% heavy:
1335 Burdon 14 DMG

12/14/2014 4:16:41 PM

Mike-S

Dorval,Quebec

Might want to take a look at that above suggestion,Steve.Pics,info,in Peter's diary.I'm growing a selfed 1024(reverse cross of 1813) in 2015.The 1335 was a strong grower into Sept.Nice to have an original seed but good things come from selfs sometimes.

12/14/2014 6:52:36 PM

Mike-S

Dorval,Quebec

Might be a PB for Peter by close to 400 lbs...

12/14/2014 6:57:10 PM

Ludwig Ammer

Eurasia

Mike, for true hybrids you need two inbred parents.
I think you should make two hybrids with the Strange fruit x 1335 and in reverse.
As a plant breeder I do not like to grow best to best.
And so I only wanted to inbreed the 1385.5 Jutras 07, because all the 1385 offspring could not satisfy me.
Now I have my inbred 1385 with hundreds of best seed from the fruit 612 Ammer 14, which of course is no GPC-fruit, ´cause I dont take the GPC seriously.
I would like to produce giant hybrids with the 511 Strange and my 612. But I mainly grow edibles, and so I do not have space for the 1335.
Maybe the 511 and the 1335 are too close related to get a real hybrid, but maybe not. Please show us this experiment.
I only want to get a better pollinator to enlarge my edible pumpkins and squash in the Stellpflug-style.

12/15/2014 2:21:49 PM

Mike-S

Dorval,Quebec

A 511 x 1335 would be a kind of sibbed cross from two selfed seeds.I don t have fruit luck on similar two generation selfed seeds although the plants are beasts.I would consider a 511 x 612 though.

12/16/2014 11:50:00 AM

Ludwig Ammer

Eurasia

Now, as you talk about the 1335 again...
Why not?!
I have to get more space, much more space to grow in 2015!
No, your are right!
No 1335!
Will you do the 511 x 612?
And I will do the 391 Otnes 13 (stretto but not selfed 1723 Marshall 11, which is a selfed 1634 Werner 10) x 511/14 in reverse, because that´s the fusion flashing with the 1634 Werner 10 grandmothers of your 511.
Mike, you might do the 486.2 Otnes 14 (391 x 2032 Mathison) with your 511 in reverse.
I only want to self the 486.2 and use it as pollinator for edibles.

12/16/2014 1:37:59 PM

Mike-S

Dorval,Quebec

The 391 must be a good seed to increase a PB by 30%.Ludvig,email me instead,as we took over Steve's post.
Hope you get that 1813 Steve!But you won't be disappointed with the reverse cross,maybe an easier find.

12/16/2014 4:11:57 PM

Mike-S

Dorval,Quebec

...Sorry I'm still takin space Steve,(obsessive trait but grower friendly).Dawn Northrup told me the reverse cross, 1024 producing plant had stump issues that really hurt fruit growth.

12/16/2014 4:18:36 PM

Ludwig Ammer

Eurasia

I thank you steveopp for inspiration!
1335 might be good for you.
Yes Mike, I´m a invurable bloviator...

12/16/2014 6:50:40 PM

steveopp

St. Marys,OH

Thanks for the info .

12/17/2014 10:07:31 AM

steveopp

St. Marys,OH

Does anyone have a contact for Peter Burdon?

12/17/2014 10:12:53 AM

Mike-S

Dorval,Quebec

Check pburdon in the diaries.

12/17/2014 1:03:11 PM

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