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Team Wexler

Frenchburg, Ky

What do you call them? Are they still marrow's? Does orange automatically mean that it has field pumpkin genetics? Will this years' "orange" marrow grow a marrow next year?

8/27/2019 8:45:41 AM

Dorset Farmers - MarkB

Dorset UK

Shit.
No not true Marrows.
More than likely.
Who knows.
Lol.

8/27/2019 2:50:03 PM

G. Kins

Southwest WA

Can marrow color-duds be entered as field pumpkins? Might offend the field kin growers... but personally I am not against it.

8/27/2019 6:12:53 PM

Team Wexler

Frenchburg, Ky

Is it safe to say that a "not true" marrow (one that goes orange) has an advantage over a "true" marrow? I find it odd that once a marrow displays orange, it's no longer a marrow lol! But it's definitely not a Field Pumpkin.

Honestly, if you have a marrow that has Field Pumpkin genetics AND you harvest it before it turns color, it's still a freakin' Shit marrow!

Just having a little fun with this. I have a few growing this year, unknown genetics. Guessing they'll go orange at some point.

8/28/2019 6:58:05 AM

Dorset Farmers - MarkB

Dorset UK

I grew Marrows that went orange back in the 16 season, I did not take any of them to competition nor did I save any seeds from them. But a certain number of them do get entered and make there way on to the show benches every year over here in the UK. Doesn't bother me a bit if I'm honest but then I've never been beaten by one of these yet. Will be interesting to see how strict the gpc will be on this.

8/29/2019 12:45:01 PM

Team Wexler

Frenchburg, Ky

Thanks Mark, appreciate your feedback. I too am wondering how individual sites will score them. Obviously, orange eliminates them from competition/prizes but.....will they still officially list them as marrows in the results? Damaged? UOW? Will a grower with some orange be able to claim his/her State record? Best I can tell, an orange marrow is still........a marrow.

8/30/2019 9:00:26 AM

Dorset Farmers - MarkB

Dorset UK

I don't think they are Marrows or field pumpkins just something in between. One to discuss with Brad.

8/30/2019 12:13:20 PM

Dutch Brad

Netherlands

I've had this discussion with more people including a seed specialist. It is similar to crossing a male donkey with a female horse. You get a mule. It is neither horse nor donkey, but a new species, therefore orange marrows do not exist.
Obviously, if picked young enough, a crossbred 'marrow' will still be green. It often takes a while to turn orange. Still, I don't think a young marrow will ever beat the world record which in my case was still growing into the 8th week.
As a judge I will disqualify any orange on a marrow and as a grower I would never show one or keep that line going.
Listing them on GPC is easy: DSQ.

8/31/2019 3:53:41 AM

Framac

New Berlin,NY

http://www.bigpumpkins.com/Diary/DiaryViewOne.asp?eid=308577

Is this orange or yellow?

9/1/2019 1:56:43 PM

wile coyote

St. Paul, Minnesota

I think it is yellow but could turn orange just like pumpkins.

What seed is it?

9/1/2019 4:27:40 PM

Dutch Brad

Netherlands

That one will go orange. Those dark green highlights on the lighter green is a characteristic of a cross between a marrow and a pumpkin. Every year I have ornamental field pumpkins that were crossed by marrows and they have that mottled skin as well. They all turn orange eventually.

9/2/2019 3:35:42 AM

Framac

New Berlin,NY

I got the seed from the pacific growers group. Enraged maybe. That cruddy that it will go orange.

9/2/2019 7:21:25 AM

JayB

Plattsburgh, NY

At the weighoff I was at, marrows with orange were allowed

10/2/2019 1:43:26 PM

WiZZy

President - GPC

GPC Marrow Rules - Orange not allowed. Hopefully the genetics will clean up to keep the line pure.

Cucurbita pepo F

for competition purposes, the following distinctions are made between marrows and zucchini (syn. courgette): A marrow is grown on a vining plant, a zucchini on a bush type plant without vines. A marrow generally has rough skin while a zucchini generally has smooth skin. A marrow is generally quite uniform in thickness while a zucchini tends to taper out towards the blossom end.

Specific rules:

a. The vine must be trimmed within 2.5 centimetres (1 inch) of the stem.

b. Marrows may be green with green or yellow striping or completely yellowish-white. No orange colouring is accepted.

10/2/2019 1:56:41 PM

G. Kins

Southwest WA

I dq'd mine myself the judges dont understand yet.
It had dark green striping and was going orange... just one little spot. Good info... got the wrong genetics here also.

10/2/2019 3:22:55 PM

G. Kins

Southwest WA

What are we gonna do with the orange ones? Mark them as dmg?

10/2/2019 3:26:31 PM

wile coyote

St. Paul, Minnesota

How about DNQ - Does Not Qualify to be a marrow.

10/2/2019 3:50:20 PM

WiZZy

President - GPC

I like that as it doesnt qualify and goes with wanting to preserve a pure line. These seeds shouldnt get mixed up in our auctions to keep the line pure.

10/2/2019 4:19:54 PM

G. Kins

Southwest WA

sounds good to me

10/2/2019 4:47:32 PM

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