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Orangeneck (Team HAMMER)

Eastern Pennsylvania

I’m away from the patch for 4 days and I’m just wondering how long you guys think you could go before burying the vine and still get an upper root to go. In past years I’ve noticed the top of the node often gets a hard white bump on top if left unburied for too long and at that point you’re stuck with just one on the bottom. I’m really trying to stay on top of things this year. I’m thinking it could go at least a week? Perhaps the vine could be 5 or more feet beyond a given node before burying and it will still go? What do you think?

6/16/2020 12:22:01 AM



I dont think there is one. Put some azos or rooting hormone on the node and bury away.

6/16/2020 12:17:38 PM



What's the difference in the big scheme even if you did miss a couple of nodes. Have fun relax

6/16/2020 1:30:03 PM

North Shore Boyz

Mill Bay, British Columbia

Our experience is that any uncovered taproot that sees sunlight, dies soon after.

6/16/2020 2:13:13 PM

Royal Gorge Pumpkin

Canon city Co.

I think moisture plays a part...if you run misters or you have high humidity you should be fine for 4-5 days....

6/16/2020 3:47:51 PM

Ned (team slammer)

Honesdale, Pennsylvania

What was that stuff I think Matt the mad scientist used to brush on the nodes to increase rooting. I think it was purple?

6/16/2020 3:52:41 PM



matt used clonex-liquid form of rooting hormone

6/16/2020 3:56:35 PM


CloneX gel and here is a picture why.


6/16/2020 4:16:22 PM


Here is a discussion where Matt explains some about use of it.


6/16/2020 4:20:34 PM

Orangeneck (Team HAMMER)

Eastern Pennsylvania

Perhaps if a root starts and then gets fried, it’s dead. But if left exposed and the root never attempts to grow, you could entice it by burying it indefinitely.

6/16/2020 4:53:42 PM


South Dakota

I use indol 3 butyric acid rooting hormone powder on top of the little nub on top, then some azos and myco and cover the whole node with a soopy mud ball.

6/16/2020 4:59:09 PM


Westmoreland, KS

Oh...don’t leave...never leave! That’s what winter is for!

6/16/2020 10:08:41 PM

Smallmouth (Team Ozark)


I agree with Royal Gorge, on a healthy plant in high humidity, I sometimes don’t need to bury the top root. It’ll turn the 180 and root by itself. You are seasoned and know this isn’t recommended, but it does happen.

6/19/2020 9:15:10 AM


Plymouth, MN

I'm not sold on CloneX gel yet based on that picture from Matt since node 3 is the youngest of the three. I'd love if someone who is using CloneX this season would do a better controlled experiment, pick two secondaries, alternate node applications, and let us all know how it turned out at season's end.

6/19/2020 10:41:24 AM

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