From

Location

Message

Date Posted

Grittyville, WA

My pb is 795.5. Hay bale beats this... or falls short? Closest without going over wins.

http://www.bigpumpkins.com/Diary/DiaryViewOne.asp?eid=301477

Myco added in soil... Diatomaceous on ground. Bale is truly disgusting strange new species of ooze... Too gross to post or even talk about...porkchop is correct.

Your turn to be correct...

4/17/2019 5:29:20 PM

Grittyville, WA

Its a terrible looking plant. Its planted ontop of a round bale of hay tipped on its side into a 4 ft deep hole. Topped with dirt. Maybe slime bugs will kill the roots. You decide...
Decomposing since late December. Soil is untested, but grew two 5 lb tomatoes.

Make ye best guess!!!

4/17/2019 5:39:15 PM

Oak Grove, Mn

Do I get to share ideas on what to do with the Hay Bale plant. If so i will go over on your PB. I am experienced with less than ideal situations.

4/17/2019 5:55:19 PM

0lbs lol

4/17/2019 6:39:17 PM

0 lbs

4/17/2019 6:39:47 PM

Thomas wv

300

4/17/2019 7:25:58 PM

Wisconsin

At least your entertaining.

4/17/2019 7:49:48 PM

Mi.

450 lbs

4/17/2019 7:53:00 PM

Upa Creek, Mo

5 pounds give or take 5 pounds

4/17/2019 8:12:32 PM

Oak Grove, Mn

i will go 805 if Brandon listens to my advice. Last year...one of my coworkers planted a plant in 100 sq ft..right in the middle of the area. He went over 500. I will have to look at what hay breaks down to...can break this down quick with the right compost tea. He is 4 ft deep...only the top 2 feet we have to worry about. A bale is not that big of a sq ft area. We have lots of soil not hay bale to think about. There are amendments....hydro specialty that can deal with root disease. Brandon...do you want the bad grower advice....if you take it...i think 805 plus...if not I will go with 0.

4/17/2019 8:29:42 PM

Upa Creek, Mo

He won’t listen to your advice, he’ll ask for it then tell you it’s wrong.

4/17/2019 9:03:12 PM

Georgia

475

4/17/2019 9:37:40 PM

Oak Grove, Mn

luke...i am great at argueing. You dont know how many employee evaluations I have had that said....i am argumentive. I always thought...what is wrong with that...when obviously the boss is wrong. Do you guys think, it is impossible...36 sq ft of questionable grow area...that might be able to corrected with azomax. leaves potentially 950 sq ft of rest of grow area to push a pumpkin over 800. Even if you lose the stump.....i think 800 is possible.

4/17/2019 10:02:36 PM

Upa Creek, Mo

Nothing wrong with thinking outside the box and trying new ideas, but he lost me in the thread in Fertilizing and Watering especially the part on cover crops not preventing erosion so hay is the answer.

Anyway, I don’t want to hijack this anymore, good luck with this.

4/17/2019 10:36:56 PM

Mill Bay, British Columbia

Lol Luke, I think he may have been “grasping at straws” when confronted with reality.

4/17/2019 10:53:53 PM

Zimmerman, Minnesota

400 lbs.

4/18/2019 12:29:47 AM

Savage, MN

359 lbs

4/18/2019 7:36:58 AM

New England

230

4/18/2019 8:00:50 AM

Central Illinois

27 days before they die,or 256 pounds

4/18/2019 8:36:32 AM

Sourthern Utah

378 lbs

4/18/2019 9:21:01 AM

JACKSON, WISCONSIN. ; )

Save your self the pain and cut it off lol don’t listen to anyone do what you want to do.. start to crank on some 10-10-10 and a ton of biological fungicide and pray

4/18/2019 10:01:13 AM

Ontario

319

4/18/2019 10:39:27 AM

Simi valley, ca

339

4/18/2019 11:02:56 AM

Central NY

Too gross to post or even talk about—will post and talk about allllllll season long...my vote would be take bob up on his offer...other wise soft spots and aborts under 200 is my guess..good luck though, if it doesn’t work out maybe someone else can bale you out...:)

4/18/2019 11:03:34 AM

On a cliff in the desert

I think my field pumpkins will weigh more than his AG if he doesn't take Bnot's advice(50). If he does take Bnot's advice my guess is 480. That's what Bnot's coworker did.

4/18/2019 12:35:42 PM

Connellsville, Pa

Just Punt !

4/18/2019 2:09:45 PM

Oak Grove, Mn

I am not thinking too much about it. Honestly, I think the best plan of action would be pull the plant and redo the area and start over. Still plenty of time. Disease in the current area is the biggest issue...to keep it at bay, it would take an investment in fungicides. The slime is a disease breeding ground. I am wondering if Hydroguard applied to soil would halt root rot like it does in a hydroponics setup. If can get the plant beyond the bale..then there i a chance. I do not know how much area there is to work with. If it is a 150 sq ft plant..the chance of great success is very minimal. Good luck Brandon, I know you will think of some off the wall attempt to solve the issues.

4/18/2019 3:20:44 PM

first 3000 lb pumpkin

4/18/2019 3:57:47 PM

Western Washington

This doesn't seem too promising. I would have to guess zero. Sorry.

4/18/2019 6:49:31 PM

Central NY

DAng!... buuuurn

4/18/2019 7:53:06 PM

Grittyville, WA

About 500 sq ft of good growing area. Glad you guys are entertained.

The internet loves hay bale gardening. I do think that owing to the size of this bale it was possibly more anaerobic than a small rectangular bale.

I didnt find any references to using a round bale in a hay bale garden... So of course I just hayd to try it!

4/19/2019 2:59:19 AM

Grittyville, WA

Im interested to try azos. You think that would help bnot? Maybe I will follow your advice. Or did you mean Azamax?

Ok well while the pessimist in me loves

4/19/2019 3:20:40 AM

Grittyville, WA

the zero answers I am going to go out on an optomistic limb and say 1200...

4/19/2019 3:24:28 AM

Grittyville, WA

First person to reply with a name gets to name the plant/pumpkin. Some early bird east coaster got a name for this blessed or cursed pumpkin. Not too long a name unless its funny. Thank you

4/19/2019 3:41:54 AM

Syracuse, NY

Clay Ton

4/19/2019 3:47:22 AM

Syracuse, NY

haybale whale

4/19/2019 3:48:23 AM

Syracuse, NY

or just Bale Whale, lol---

4/19/2019 3:49:19 AM

Syracuse, NY

If not me, then Don Young has my vote for being the one and only to see or at least SAY the possibility in it, lol---Good Luck, Brandon!

4/19/2019 3:53:08 AM

Grittyville, WA

Better yet... All are welcome to offer up to 3 names. I will randomly pick 3 names in 24 hrs...

I know the plants look near dead but they are not dying... Not yet. They are stressed, yes, but alive still.

Two poor little plants and one bigger one. Anything works for names, just throw em at me!!!

4/19/2019 4:04:27 AM

Grittyville, WA

Ok thats two thank you eric. I think Don was joking:)

4/19/2019 4:09:40 AM

Grittyville, WA

But if it hits half that, he wins!

4/19/2019 4:10:24 AM

Grittyville, WA

I'll toss my three in the hat: Lady Gaga, Majestic, and Rusty.

4/19/2019 4:29:52 AM

Grittyville, WA

Scratch that. Lady Gaga, Magestic, and Goldfish.

If you want to throw some names in the hat nows your chance folks. 1 more from you eg?

4/19/2019 4:41:54 AM

Central NY

Musty misty?...composting Kathy?...squishy Susie?...I like squishy Susie ...

4/19/2019 11:56:10 AM

Barrington N.S. Canada

375

4/19/2019 2:03:13 PM

stoughton WI

While your trying something new and trying to reinvent the wheel. Your not thinking
ahead.If that bale is becoming anaerobic, what are the possibilities that any disease growing can spread to the rest of the patch.

4/19/2019 4:41:24 PM

Oak Grove, Mn

good point Rick, I will private email you this weekend brandon. I think if you really want to save the bale plant that you have to be in position to spend some dollars to combat the disease. I still think your best plan of action would be to pull the plant and the bale and start fresh. But if not, since I am not growing pumpkins this year...i would have a plant to watch and think about. Look for my email.

4/19/2019 4:45:33 PM

Georgia

I think porkchop is on to something:

Dead Fred, Sally Six Feet Under, Mort.

4/19/2019 8:19:33 PM

Cottonwood Heights

838

4/19/2019 9:35:53 PM

Santa Rosa, CA.

Hey girl hay.

4/20/2019 12:11:04 AM

Syracuse, NY

At least mine were optimistic:

Clay Ton

Bale Whale

...and just one for the pissimists, lol:

WhodaThawt

4/20/2019 1:14:08 AM

Syracuse, NY

...and, unless it's Rosalie's choice, NONE of these:
'Lady Gaga, Majestic, and Goldfish'...well, maybe
Majestic, but only with Rosalie's insistence.
2 hours, 33 minutes. eg

4/20/2019 1:31:10 AM

Grittyville, WA

Ok...Freddy
Sally
Misty
Cathy
Susan
Clay A. Ton
B.B.W. (Big Bale Whale)
Whuda Stunk
Whuda Skunk
Whoda Thunk
Lady Gaga
Majesty
Goldfish... And my fav: Hay Girl

4/20/2019 3:17:07 AM

Grittyville, WA

Scratch B.B.W. because thats offensive to big beautiful pumpkins... Lets go with just "Whale" instead. Thanks for helping name her. If not posted this morning its because I fell back to sleep.

4/20/2019 3:25:43 AM

Grittyville, WA

Rick there are two possibilities for creating disease. One is to thtow thongs out of balance in a way that promotes conditions for the disease organisms already present to thrive. The other is to introduce entirely new diseases (bringing in soil from a nursery that has a bad phyto strain for example. I figure the things I can unbalance nature can rebalance the concern would be the amount of time. My honest guess is that although compost @ years 2-6 would be better than aged 2-6 months I do think disease should begin to decline now. There are pathogens unfriendly to roots out there. The balance is whats interesting. There is a tipping point where the good outweighs bad. This wont be a fairy tale but later in the year in August many growers soils may be dead (biologically used up) and you'll be depending on adding hydrolized protiens to the soil. Possibly I wont have to... The hay bale may still be alive... kicking out nutrients. I expect this setup to perform better in August than April. Lets see if thats the case.

4/20/2019 4:07:57 AM

Grittyville, WA

Rick there are two possibilities for creating disease. One is to throw things out of balance in a way that promotes conditions for the disease organisms already present to thrive. The other is to introduce entirely new diseases (bringing in soil from a nursery that has a bad phyto strain for example). I figure the things I can unbalance nature can rebalance the concern would be the amount of time. My honest guess is that although compost @ years 2-6 would be better than aged 2-6 months I do think disease should begin to decline now. There are pathogens unfriendly to roots out there. The balance is whats interesting. There is a tipping point where the good outweighs bad. This wont be a fairy tale but later in the year in August many growers soils may be dead (biologically used up) and they'll be depending on adding hydrolized protiens or tea to the soil. Possibly I wont have to... The hay bale may still be alive... kicking out nutrients. I expect this setup to perform better in August than April. Let's see if thats the case.

I will have other plants grown in the shallow dirt/traditional way & pushed with tea or chemicals.

Yes bnot... you're now my official advisor.

4/20/2019 4:18:06 AM

Grittyville, WA

If that suits you thats great by me... I know you're quite busy though.

4/20/2019 4:20:54 AM

Grittyville, WA

K... By ranodom lottery 2019 Round Bale contestants are:

Majesty the 186 Radach

Whoda Thawt the 2005 Haist

& Lady Gaga... 174/175 Clayton Est. (1774.5 Carter x 1992.5 Vincent.

Lets Growwwwww!

Any more guesses??? Guessing closes in two weeks. Yeah I cut a couple hours off the 24 hrs to name them but, you know I claim to cut corners well there's the proof... My bad.

4/20/2019 5:01:04 AM

Iowa

485

4/20/2019 5:48:08 PM

Arden, NC

463

4/20/2019 8:29:59 PM

Upa Creek, Mo

Who remembers when this guy accused Holland of not fair game? I do.

http://www.bigpumpkins.com/MsgBoard/ViewThread.asp?b=3&p=628023

4/20/2019 10:08:21 PM

Grittyville, WA

Oh you wanna fight huh why its April. Not gonna win any fight against me I stand by what I post and will continue to do so!

4/20/2019 11:08:10 PM

Grittyville, WA

Work more... drink less.

4/20/2019 11:10:22 PM

Grittyville, WA

...Thats how you win.

4/20/2019 11:20:18 PM

Grittyville, WA

About that though they went ahead with their raffle anyhow. Did I call the cops no. Is it appropriate to know the law? Generally yes. The laws might be stupid contact your legislature if thats the case. I could care less about this and I value everyone on here including Joel and Mary Lou. Sorry if it seems like I dont but I think I've taken more undeserved flack than I've dished. Oh well. Its like a China shop here. Break one dish and you're never welcome again. Is that how you want this site to be?

4/20/2019 11:41:01 PM

Walhalla, ND.

Glenoma work more, post less...

4/21/2019 6:29:31 AM

Grittyville, WA

Which posts bother you? Does this post bother you? What exactly is your problem. Last I checked we are not at war... so lets have fun please?

4/21/2019 6:49:09 AM

Grittyville, WA

Who is the enemy? Who are we at war with? This is over my head. I stated the law in a somewhat grouchy way. I dont get what the big deal is.

4/21/2019 6:53:03 AM

Grittyville, WA

Let me know when you all agree that I'm allowed to post. You want a war? Really? Seriously? You unwisely want a war because you have never experienced defeat.

4/21/2019 7:01:23 AM

Grittyville, WA

I am not preventing this site from being fun and educational. Maybe could be more fun and educational if we stood up to the bullies on here. You guys are lazy... If you want to fight then take a real shot at me please.

4/21/2019 7:09:27 AM

Grittyville, WA

Smallmouth and Hobbit... And Porkchop... Just block me please.

4/21/2019 7:14:31 AM

Grittyville, WA

Post something useful/helpful/inspiring. I doubt any of you guys will hit personal bests this year. But I probably will...

4/21/2019 7:26:00 AM

Grittyville, WA

Or maybe I won't...

4/21/2019 7:34:10 AM

Grittyville, WA

Drama is not fun. Guesses are fun though... I will post more pics this weekend maybe will know by then which direction these plants are headed.

4/21/2019 7:43:15 AM

Grittyville, WA

Next weekend I mean. This weekend is over for me... Back to the grind. I will post an update next weekend.

4/21/2019 7:45:11 AM

Deal With It

At least I’m just trolling when I create drama on the message boards.

This guy ^^^^^ is certifiably insane.

All BP users within 100 miles of Glenoma should guard their patches.

4/21/2019 8:17:31 AM

Deal With It

Also, I have a nice, feminine name for the pumpkin:

Pustula

4/21/2019 8:43:10 AM

Central NY

Lol

4/21/2019 8:44:17 AM

Central NY

If bob’s onboard I change my guess...602, rotted stem, but could make it to the end...go pustula go!!!...good luck bob!!

4/21/2019 8:45:58 AM

On a cliff in the desert

Maybe Brandon is trying to replicate this for AGs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXcA99xGHwQ

4/21/2019 10:42:10 AM

Oak Grove, Mn

Wow...glad i skipped reading up above.
I don't think I will be too much input for the bale baby. Too confusing to me what he all has going on. But what I have seen so far....it is not hopeless. Wile, there is much info on the web about straw bale gardening. Hopefully, Brandon can push some good biologicals into all that OM. I might be able to give one or two ideas that could possibly help...but Brandon will be making all the decisions. It is growing for the fun of it...nothing wrong with that.

4/21/2019 11:25:09 AM

Georgia

I had no idea about the fake accounts and attacking Joel Holland. Everyone should check out that link that smallmouth posted earlier in the thread. So not cool on Glenoma Kins part. I totally get why Joel and other high profile growers do no post which is a loss for the forum.

4/21/2019 11:30:34 AM

Oak Grove, Mn

It is a shaky thread from over a year ago. I cant say I agree with subject but a concern was brought up and I doubt anyone really spent anytime checking the rules and regulations for Wa. It is actually common in the US that to win a prize a customer is not required to make a purchase. That is why many companies offer free entry by mail to some of their promotional events. Any problem with a small specialty grow supplier was overblown. I know Bubba received much worse BP threads. Many of us have things that we wish we had not posted or posted differently. That is why I think disagreements should be held to current posts...not ones from years back.

4/21/2019 11:52:30 AM

Western Washington

I'm sorry to report that there is evidence that Glenoma has been logging in under fake screen names in the chat here on bp in the last couple of weeks, and then pokes fun what he overhears in his personal diary. If a person says "Hello" to one of his fake screen names, he logs out without saying anything.

4/21/2019 12:30:18 PM

Oak Grove, Mn

Do you have a diary entry that shows an example?

This is at least current.....

4/21/2019 12:34:27 PM

Central NY

Glen doesn’t hide that he has multiple accounts...and glen is not a bad guy..I would say a good guy...very eager to be helpful ...(notice I didn’t say helpful)...and as far as the stank haybale pumpkin, I didn’t realize this was a “for fun” pumpkin, I was going off his wanting to hit 1500lbs this year...maybe that ones in the main patch?

4/21/2019 12:46:15 PM

Central NY

And that Holland post?....that’s just glen being glen, hence my nickname, buzzkill Glen...aka glenoma...aka blossom downsters...aka pustulas keeper...good luck glen...if you lived close by we would probably be very good friends...(in little itty bitty tiny doses...)....

4/21/2019 12:49:12 PM

Western Washington

*I meant I CANT put a plant into 38 degree dirt."

We were talking about that Pimple Popper Doctor program in the chat and it completely grosses me out. I can't watch that program. His comment is referring to that, I'm sure.

I'm not seeing the other example where I phrased something uniquely and then, the next day, a mention was made of it in one of his blog posts. It did not give me that safe, cozy feeling, to be honest.

4/21/2019 1:05:53 PM

Central NY

(Don’t worry)...his plants feel the same...he’s harmless...(well, except to his plants...happy Easter everyone!!

4/21/2019 1:15:06 PM

Oak Grove, Mn

Suburban Gardener...I am well known amongst the chat regulars. I haven't spent much time there lately, but that can change. What time do you tend to chat? I have been watching your diary entries and am pulling for your success this year. Too be honest...i had to do a search of pimple popper doctor program....i do not own a tv. I am confused about the 38 degree dirt correlation but i am open to to explanation. I will have to find you in chat...I don't worry about any of the unknown quiets that sometimes hang in chat. They must have a really boring life. Relax, enjoy chatting, enjoy growing....rotten old guys like me can take the flack.

4/21/2019 1:19:51 PM

Western Washington

Thanks guys, I appreciate it.

His comment was phrased word-for-word the way my comment was made, and it was rather unnerving.

I'll just ignore from now on. Thank you again.

4/21/2019 1:32:22 PM

Grittyville, WA

No clue what you guys are talking about. Youre acting like crack heads. Ive not logged on under any other name. The following three names have been utilized /logged on by me:

Blossomdownsters, sleepingbeauty (helping Anna get her stuff posted... Thats her account but a couple times I used her phone and accidentally posted from her account.) And Glenoma Kins. You guys are all tweaked! What are you on? Lol waiting for someone to say April fools here. What is wrong with you people.

4/21/2019 2:08:35 PM

Grittyville, WA

You guys are all weird. Im weird because I'm into pumpkins. And maybe I am not very good at pumpkins... Oh well... Crucify me :)

4/21/2019 2:17:10 PM

Central NY

Lmao..go weed yer garden...weirdo

4/21/2019 2:20:37 PM

Oak Grove, Mn

Porkchop...thanks for help in diffusing the situation. I am going to send you DelBrut seeds with my new address on the return envelope. You may not grow them...but I think you might find someone that will try. It is the same deal I was going to make with DS. You are correct about G...s . I think I have met my better at thinking about new and different ways to kill plants. How did he get to 5+ tomato last year...i thought Anna was going to blow his numbers away. Wondering...are you going to adopt Lambchops growing methods this year? I think she is on to something. Keep thinking outside the box Glenomkins...i need someone crazier than me.

4/21/2019 2:21:42 PM

Central NY

#creepystalkerguy

4/21/2019 2:23:48 PM

Central NY

Omg...lol...someone stop me...(sorry glen)...lmao

4/21/2019 2:24:24 PM

Central NY

No I’m not adopting her junk methods...she got lucky with the soil I mixed for her...

4/21/2019 2:25:48 PM

Central NY

And YeA!....I AM glad she’s never reads these boards!!!...

4/21/2019 2:33:52 PM

Grittyville, WA

Ok well I love you guys & wish you the best. I dont know what happened Suburban I emailed you and you were nice. Everyone has reached out and made you feel welcome. Enjoy it... And try to do the same for me.

4/21/2019 2:34:08 PM

Central NY

Don’t pout...just go weed...and start back-ups...

4/21/2019 2:36:22 PM

Central NY

And get em out of those nasty plastic bags...jeezus

4/21/2019 2:36:49 PM

Oak Grove, Mn

what you talking about...i thought they were paper bags?

4/21/2019 2:41:43 PM

Central NY

Oh paper bags?...I change my guess...603

4/21/2019 2:43:57 PM

Western Washington

I'm really sorry too Brandon. I apologize. My social media skills have never been that great despite my efforts to improve. I like you Glenoma and I hope you have a most excellent season! I admire how you are sticking with it even through difficulties.

Thank you for your help Porkchop, and I truly apologize.

I've really been stressing instead of enjoying myself and I'm sorry I took out here.

I too will go back out to the patch and see what I can do.

Happy Easter!

4/21/2019 3:18:12 PM

Central NY

Buzzkills name is Brandon?....LMAO...buzzkill Brandon...oh that’s gonna stick...no worries suburban...we’re all friends here

4/21/2019 3:25:31 PM

Central NY

-but “the stressing and not enjoying yourself?”...better get used to it ...(it’ll be worth it)...

4/21/2019 3:33:44 PM

Oak Grove, Mn

put porkchop on ignore....get over the stress unless you want to be a high heavy hitter. 95% of the growers here, just want to grow bigger than they did before. Enjoy the time in the sun, the weeds that just don't stop, the weather that keeps doing opposite of what you want...etc, etc, etc...if the only number to beat is your previous pb...you don't have to worry that you don't have enough dollars to do what you want, you don't have the knowledge to grow your best, and many other things. Number one...enjoy the challenge, you will win some years, you will lose others. Too much stress for giant growing...you might as well be working a job...this is a hobby....find enjoyment in it.

4/21/2019 3:43:09 PM

Walhalla, ND.

Glenoma your right I will just block you I hope you have a successful growing season . Im here to learn, listen to, and implement suggestions from growers on how I can do better job at growing these pumpkins. I have come to the conclusion there’s not a thing you have to offer.
bnot your right as well, growing giant pumpkins is a hobby that should be enjoyed and I do so very much. I however do not agree that BP should be used as a hobby.

4/21/2019 4:27:28 PM

Oak Grove, Mn

Hobbit, When I took a picture of you on top of you new ND record...I had my finger on the button just in case you fell off so i could catch the tumble. I think you putting Glenomkins on ignore is probably the right decision for you. I really don't think he will offer you anything that will help you reach the next level. You don't need the distraction. As far as BP...we are all in different boats. It is a hobby of many different ability of growers. Should we make it...the only ones that can post are those growers that have broke 1900, 2000, 2200 etc. Next time I see you Hobbit...i expect to like the conversation..you did good for an old guy jumping in to help at the Anoka weighoff. I will probably be a forever small grower...i can listen to everyone. I don't think any heavy hitter is now listening to the advice of Glenomkiins.

4/21/2019 4:50:09 PM

central Nc

+1 for the ignore feature. I've only got one name on it but it makes a world of difference for your stress level. It's almost May, let's get growing!

4/21/2019 7:09:44 PM

Mill Bay, British Columbia

Good idea Hobbit, I’ve got a few growers and non-growers her on block but every once in awhile someone will email me with “you see what (insert name here) is posting on the message boards today” so I’ll sign out and follow the action for shits and giggles.

You just can’t make this stuff up, cracks me up big time!!

4/21/2019 9:10:32 PM