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Subject: Sevin dose
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| AndyMan |
Lake Elmo, Minnesota
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The bottle states "3/4 to 1 1/2 ounces per gallon of water." What dose are folks using?? I used 1 1/2 ounces and I'm fairly sure that has caused Sevin burn. Only concern is that lower end dose isn't as effective. Appreciate the years of experience from BP growers.
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6/20/2003 10:49:18 AM
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| Water (John) |
Midway City, California
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Go by the instructions on the bottle that's what they are for. My two cents worth
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6/20/2003 11:26:51 AM
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| docgipe |
Montoursville, PA
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Go for the early AM or late evening application. Better for the plants and the bees either are not up or have gone to hive for the evening.
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6/20/2003 1:03:28 PM
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| AndyMan |
Lake Elmo, Minnesota
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still looking for which dose most growers use...........low end (3/4 ounce) or high end (1 1/2 ounces)?????
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6/20/2003 2:44:59 PM
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| brentw(2) |
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I applied at 1.5 oz to gal - the high end. I spray tops and bottoms of the leaves, but but stayed away from the vine tips/new growth. Last year that is where I had some burning.
Besides, I like to keep the vine tips pesticide free so when the varments eat them they do not get a stomach ache. BrentW.
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6/20/2003 4:25:35 PM
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| brentw(2) |
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ps. I also mix a stronger dose for the perimiter of the patch. If I remember right, the directions say 6oz per gal to create a barrier (I used 4oz).
It's probably not a good idea if kids are around. I sprayed this past weekend just before leaving for a few days on vacation... BrentW.
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6/20/2003 4:43:16 PM
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| docgipe |
Montoursville, PA
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You can bet your bottom dollar if the label says 3/4 to 1 & 1/2 the bottom controlling limits are indeed somewhat lower yet. Traditionally the folks who sell the stuff suggest useages heavier than many growers use. As a seller would'nt you?
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6/20/2003 6:25:24 PM
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| Alexsdad |
Garden State Pumpkins
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I still have problems applying sevin...If I apply during an overcast day you can bet the sun will break through and burn the plants...if it's a wet day the sevin runs to the edges of the leaves and sits then burns the edges..so application problems are usually what we have more so then dosages....has to be sprayed on to where it clings and doesn't run...if it runs it's gonna burn the edges. Burned a few in my day and sure I'll burn a few more!! Good Luck! Grow em Big! Chuck
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6/20/2003 7:08:51 PM
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| Tremor |
[email protected]
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Pest pressure is often low enough to justify using the low rates. If pressure is high, go ahead with the high rate, but only on the older growth. As the sprayer runs down toward empty, add a quantity of water equal to the remaining volume. This will halve the rate from the intial 1.5 oz per gallon, down to the .75 oz per gallon rate. Then if the younger growth must be sprayed, it will be safer to do so. That said, it could be less detrimental to just skip the tips all together if the pest pressure is of less threat than the damage the spray will cause.
But then Scimitar at 1.2 mls per gallon is safe enough for the youngest growth & I've yet to see anything survive that was properly sprayed.
In other words. Forget the Sevin. Most of the ugly pumpkin photos I've seen this year were probably Sevin damaged.
Steve
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6/20/2003 7:22:24 PM
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| pumpkin kid |
huntsburg,ohio
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i agree with steve .I haven't used sevin in years it burns the plant and prematurely ages it.Jerry
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6/20/2003 11:09:11 PM
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| CEIS |
In the shade - PDX, OR
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I came home yesterday and saw a cuc beetle on a plant on my deck.
Promptly dusted w/sevin - then had rains today and it is all washed off. Spray or dust I bet it would have been rinsed off either way. Never had problems burning with the powder.
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6/21/2003 1:37:09 AM
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| Tremor |
[email protected]
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Powdered dusts are safe for plants. Not so the poor applicator breathing them in (so please be careful). And they really do wash off esaily.
But the newer liquid insecticide formulations do *NOT* wash off in the rain just so long as the spray has dried completely before the event. Honest. This technology is improved about 500% in the past 10 years with major strides forward in the past 5 years.
Scimitar/Warrior/Battle & Capture/Talstar are almost 100% water fast & won't damage foliage when rate & timing are properly selected.
Same thing with the new fungicides that contain Weatherstick & Weathershield technology.
Ever seen the new exterior grade latex paints wash off a house in the rain? I didn't think so. It's a little different, but we get the idea.
Steve
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6/21/2003 8:19:54 AM
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| WAIT TIL NEXT YEAR |
So. Maine
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I mixed 1 oz. liquid 7 to 1 gallon of water today to control cuke beetles on my field pumpkins. Checked progress 30 min. after spraying and nearly all of them were a gonner.
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6/21/2003 10:57:25 PM
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