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i would like to join this site..can someone help me with this..please e-mail me.

1/1/2003 5:52:06 AM

Southeast

Super site !!!!!!!

1/1/2003 8:07:37 AM

Caceres, Spain

New membership is closed by now, check the page often or E-mail Mike Neppereny.

1/1/2003 8:22:14 AM

Southern Illinois

yes i want to join also,what is mike e mail.

1/1/2003 8:55:10 AM

Myrtle Creek, Oregon

Mike is the site wizard should be right there on the first page.
H-K-J <;-)

1/1/2003 10:13:32 AM

Connecticut

Ihave been trying to join for awhile now also.Did email but got no response, guess we'll just have to wait

1/1/2003 10:48:03 AM

Caceres, Spain

Yeah, that happened to me some months ago. I had to wait almost one month, he has to be very busy at that and this time. But I assure you that joining a.g.g.c.com has a real danger: you can get caught by that site and spend hours and hours there, then your wife becomes stressed, after that, you awake in the middle of the night to enter that site, when nobody sees you; you begin to feel like a thieve in the night, then you get into that role and goes to the pc dressed in black with a black hood, but it doesn't work out, because your wife discover you and goes to talk with her mother first, later with the family doctor, then with a psychologist: "Do you say my dear lady your husband has a Giant Pumkin Obsession, because he is researching at any time a seed data base?" "Not an obsession, doctor, a possession, he is possessed by the AGP goblin!". Job is next step, many days you are lat, others you even stay at home the whole day and says you are sick, the days you rich to go to work, you do your task but you don't think in what you are doing, but in 1024, 705,... Accidents happen, a machine you didn't see because you didn't pay attention... And you couldn't grow that seed that you wished and had planned to plant after so much research, because you are in the hospital, at least, there aren't pc and line and you get cured... Till next year, of course.
Better forgot that site friends: too dangerous.

1/1/2003 12:47:16 PM

Carrollton, Ga.

That is a good one Don. LOL!!!!

1/1/2003 1:30:25 PM

North Ga

A little practice on that English Don and you are the Master!!!

1/1/2003 1:34:58 PM

North Ga

lol!

1/1/2003 1:35:40 PM

Appalachian Mtns.

Boy, do you speak the truth!

1/1/2003 2:03:35 PM

"there is nothing on the site that represents you or your pumpkins. Your name is not in the AGGC database".membership is closed..
this is what i get when i contact mike..i love a private club..john d powers

1/1/2003 2:46:45 PM

Western Pa.

Sounds to me like Don is suffering from an irreversable giant curcurbit fixation that will more than likely end up consuming life as he knows it. Welcome to the club, Carlos!

kilr

1/1/2003 2:56:22 PM

Western Pa.

Lobsta,

Here is my "take" on the AGGC site. Mike has worked very dilligently and hard to create his site, and I believe that last year he became "fed up" of those that logged on with the sole intent of bettering themselves. I think a similar thing occurred last year when word got out(to the wrong source) that John and Ken were offering "free Giant Pumpkin seeds", and the seed page was rapidly depleted by people whom were not necessarily interested in ever growing the seed, but just wanted something for free. Mike does not beg for donations for his time and work, but they are welcome. But what Mike is MOST interested in is complete information on any pumpkins or squash grown over 500#.(This weight simply because so many under this weight have been grown.)I respect the work Mike has done in the record keeping field of this hobby. Mike, or anyone else, please correct me if I'm wrong.

kilr

1/1/2003 3:07:33 PM

Appalachian Mtns.

What does "bettering themselves" mean? Seeking good information? Isn't that what the site is for?
I have found the site absolutely invaluable, I can't imagine ever NOT having it now.
As far as membership, who knows, maybe he's a little bit busy with the holidays to handle any more new right now.

1/1/2003 3:23:22 PM

North Ga

Mike is a great guy. He works hard to keep his site up and to give back to the growers. I'm sure if you e-mail him he will more than gladly help in your efforts. Bye the way he started another site called Gagiants.com. Hat's off to you Mike!

1/1/2003 3:46:07 PM

HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden" now he's got some block on my computer..what gives..i'm sure he's a hella of nice guy.

1/1/2003 4:01:30 PM

Paradise Mountain, New York

very easy to jion the AGGC contact by e-mail to the owner. write a very nice letter as why you want to jion. when you get a e-mail back from the own, he will tell to send money, a screename and password to his home address. SEND $10.00 it's well worth it. even $20.00
pumpkinbrat

1/1/2003 4:34:40 PM

Paradise Mountain, New York

very easy to jion the AGGC contact by e-mail to the owner. write a very nice letter as why you want to jion. when you get a e-mail back from the own, he will tell to send money, a screename and password to his home address. SEND $10.00 it's well worth it. even $20.00
pumpkinbrat

1/1/2003 4:34:42 PM

Southern Illinois

had a e mail back this mourning saying sorry not accepting new members at this time.

1/2/2003 7:51:41 AM

Western Pa.

Southern,

What I mean by "bettering themselves" is when an inexperienced grower uses the AGGC site to gather information, and then "poses" as an expert on THIS site on the subject of seed crosses, what color a certain pumpkin was,(photos sometimes lie!), etc.,etc.,etc. This has actually been done on this site. I think that it's great that the info is there at AGGC, and can be had for only a little input, from anyone who wants to spend the time. I'd just much rather chat with an "admitted" newbie ,someone who's actually made a few crosses, grown an AG or two, or were actually there to see what color the pumpkin (or squash) actually was, than someone who's just reading from a piece of paper downloaded from AGGC!

Don't get me started!

1/2/2003 8:03:21 AM

[email protected]

This is very interesting. I sympathize with all parties involved. One the one hand, the website owner has (assumed) limited resources to manage the site & wants to keep it under a moderated or controlled condition.

One the other hand, all who are denied access feel slighted. Deservedly so in my opinion. No one likes to be excluded regardless of what they have to obtain or offer. All involved lose.

The "Newbie giving advice" or answering questions thing is intriguing too. I have never grown an AG in my life. Grown an auful lot of pumpkins, just never an AG. So I am a "Newbie". I very much look forward to the 2003 growing season thanks to the valuable assistance of the many fine friends I've found right here.

But does that make my contributions unworthy of other participants interest? I won't, & indeed can't, contribute much in AG genetic experience. The limited genetic experience I have is gained from breeding confifers & a few herbaceous plants. Oh, & some theoretical studies in deciduous trees such as quercus. In theory, this could be useful. But in reality, it is of little use to most board members.

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1/2/2003 11:34:23 AM

[email protected]

And I can only comment on the AG colors of the fruit I saw this fall at the Durham, CT fair. By now, I would have forgotten what most of them looked lime & who grew them but for the miracle of digital imaging. This sort of data would serve almost no one since John & Ken both live closer to the Durham fairgrounds than I do. They could (and DID I think) post their own photos.

Yet I DO have something to contribute. As a trained agronomist & a chemical distributor/fertilizer manufacturing companies field sales rep, I have probably forgotten more about soils, chemicals, & fertility than the average commercial pumpkin grower will ever know. And yet this doesn't mean I have nothing to learn here. I have already learned a bundle or I wouldn't bother checking in everyday.

I'd wager that fewer than 20% of all the accomplished AG growers are actual agriculture professionals. That means that about 80% are "amateurs" by the literal definition. And so what? Even a guy that makes his living producing Wheat from a 10,000 acre farm out west is still not going to know as much as most of the "HITTER's", when it comes to AG's. Even if the HITTER was a fulltime Fireman or Banker. Why would they?

In my opinion, the primary strength from this or any other similar website, is it's ability to attract many individuals & their varying degrees & fields of expertise. It is then up to the members themselves to determine what information is useful. All the data presented by us here is always subject to peer review anyway.

It would only seem polite to credit someone elses idea (when it's not original) if one is to share an answer. But NOT providing an answer just because it doesn't come out of your own research laboratory is no help either. We all had to learn somewhere.

The real value in either site is only the exchange of ideas & knowlege. Hopefully to the credit of all who deserve, regardless of tenure.

Just my thoughts.

St

1/2/2003 11:34:47 AM

Appalachian Mtns.

OK Kilr.....I won't get you started, just wanted a little clarification. I'm sorta a newbie, couple years experience. Boy, do I feel better now!

1/2/2003 11:38:10 AM

Western Pa.

Tremor,

I am an "amateur" grower and agree with you 99%! This past season I observed "newbies" taking for granted everything a certain inexperienced grower stated as "written in stone".I have seen "orange" photos of green squmpkins, and vice versa. For someone to come out and call a fruit pink, red, orange, or green without being there,what I guess I'm saying is, that sometimes a single photo will not always accurately depict the subject. We all know photos processed from Kodak are a lot different in color than those at Wal-Mart. I guess as with anything else on the information highway, we must realize that not all information may be accurate, the truth, or the correct answer. It just bothered me that an individual could "pose" as an expert with no real experience. I agree that everyone has, and is permitted to contribute to this site, which in most cases, is to the good of all. John and Ken have made this site avaliable to all,which is good, although may have caused headaches and anxiety attacks from time to time. If we stop learning, we fail to grow. I respect your knowledge in other fields of growing, and now know whom to contact for help with my conifers and herbaceous plants.

p.s. Good luck with your AGs!
kilr

1/2/2003 1:29:16 PM