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Paradise Mountain, New York

Hampton grew a 1013.6 Hampton 2002. He used Multiple Pollinators using 805 Pukos and 940 Mombert. So how will this work on the 1013.6 Hampton for the seeds? Has others done this? Also how do you follow the family tree down the road?

11/16/2002 9:55:06 AM

Garden State Pumpkins

what do you call that "limited open" pollenation?

11/16/2002 10:07:33 AM

Long Island,New York

No...its not "open" anything. Its a controlled pollination (no big max,hubbard, or giant bannana squashes) using the 940 and the 805. Grab a seed, plant it, and you will either end up with a plant with 805pukos as the father or the 940 mombert as the father. Its done quite often when too few males are available of any one kind. When following family trees you simply understand that it could be either one or the other ! After a few growings, some people will start to speculate things like..."if its orange it was the mombert" or "if its 150% heavy its a Pukos parent". In either case its a guess cause you never will know. Most people see a promissing female on the plant thats in a good location in a proper time frame and want it pollinated to get a big pumpkin...a specific cross is nice, but the goal is a big pumpkin. This makes more sense than you realize since most early fruits are crossed with plants that we have no individual fruiting quality info from anyway. (You dont know what the plant thats supplying the male pollen will do until October). When you pick your pollinator you are "un-naturally selecting" based upon early plant vigor,growth, characteristics,etc and "generalized past history" of that seed....not what we might want>>Big producers.......(just my opinion)......G

11/16/2002 11:08:32 AM

Kentucky - USA

1013.6 Hampton-LOP-805 Pukos/940 Mombert

I'm brain dead..hehe

Tim

11/16/2002 11:51:53 AM

Garden State Pumpkins

Yikes G...Just asking a quetion there! Does tha explain why some of those 534.8 are green and some so orange...that Lyons threw some big greenies early on yet yours was as orange as could be and you said the sib was green? Was there a multiple pollenator in the lineage? Chuck

11/16/2002 12:12:24 PM

Long Island,New York

Hi Chuck...just answering the question....lol. The 534.8Andrews has yet to be grown as far as i know.The 534 was great orange color and from the 900Lyons which grows orange fruit and green fruit.The pollinator that fathered the 534.8 was another 900Lyons plant but it was a plant that made green fruit. So, the 543.8Andrews01 orange pumpkin was from a 900Lyons plant that makes orange fruit pollinated by another different 900Lyons that was making green fruit.An orange x green sibbing.What will the 534.8 produce? I have no idea. The color thing isnt really understood yet, no matter what some people say.Look at this for example: 895Hester00*=900Lyons#1green x 900Lyons#2green and its only thrown out green squash so far.The 986Hester00*=900Lyons#2green x 900Lyons#1green...the reverse cross of the same two plants....and it has only thrown out orange. No multiple pollinator in the lineage as far as we know.....when you figure it out please let me in on it !....G

11/16/2002 1:10:41 PM

Garden State Pumpkins

This year G it's my cross for the caniff 610.

11/16/2002 1:54:45 PM

Caceres, Spain

Emmons 658: Holland 879 x Franek 575/Lloyd 935

11/17/2002 1:31:56 AM