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it is hard for some ag growers to get small amounts of certain chemicals that they need to apply to there plants,and for some people you cant even find,i am opening up a small farm store for the ag growers are any vegetble grower,any chemical that is listed for pumpkins i will have,and a few more like captan 50,warrior,,i will sell to anybody on this site at a lower cost than you can buy any where else,if its all right with ken and john i will post the cost and what chemicals i will have,pints--quarts--1/2 gallon--gallon--2 1/2 gallon jugs,insecticides,fungicides,fertilizers,spreader stickers,nematicides,insect growth regulators,soil fumigants,micronutrients,miticides,herbicides.

10/25/2002 7:07:23 PM

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Hello Heavyhitter,
I've been in the Turf & Ornamental Fertilizer & Chemical business for the past 15 years (longer if we count the consumption side of the counter). All of the "good stuff" is labeled for both ag & ornamental use. But usually under different names. Ag only chemicals are a funny business. I sell every single ag chem in it's turf/ornamental label. Please let me know if I can be of any assistance. I'll help if I can.
Steve

10/25/2002 8:08:51 PM

Western NY

please tell me you're going to at least going to put a copy of the MSDS in with what you sell. some, if not all, of those chemicals are extremely toxic, and will last in the environment quite a while. i use warrior-t, and you better believe i read up on the stuff first. i'm not sure some of the people are worried enough about what they buy.

Andy

10/26/2002 12:37:01 PM

Long Island,New York

This is EXACTLY why we need a license here to apply chemicals like these....Dimestore distributors ! I do believe it is illegal (and irresponsible) to sell these (most) chemicals outside of origional packaging, and especially through the mail. It sounds like a great and helpfull idea Heavyhitter...it really does....but the potential damage and LIABILITY is mind boggleing. Surely you wanna pass this by your broher-in-law---the lawyer......Glenn.
)please...dont take it personal...but do look into the liabilities....legal AND environmental)

10/26/2002 12:44:02 PM

Southern Illinois

hello guys,it is ok,i will buy the items from the dealer,in the package shiped to me,in small amounts,some will be in pint to 2 1/2 gallon jugs,i will not open and resale in smaller packages,i just checked my e-mail i will not be able to sell on this site,i just hear alot of people that cant find some chemicals in small amounts,and i would like to help out but.

10/26/2002 4:31:02 PM

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I don't recall anyone saying the materials wouldn't be in their original package. The law does require that they be. The DOT requires a copy of the MSDS. If anyone receives product any other way, then find a new supplier.

HH,
I have to hold a "Restricted Use Pesticide Dealers License" in all the states that I sell in (currently New Jersey, New York, CT, & Mass.) but we have lisenced associates in all 50 states & parts of Europe, Asia, & Australia. On those occasions I need to ship a resticted use pesticide to a state other than one of those listed, I call on one of my associates to place the order for me. The penalties aren't worth messing around with. The customer has to have a valid lisence for the state I'm shipping also.
Part of why hobbyists can't find what they're after is because what they need is often restricted use. Therefore they need either a commercial or private applicators lisence. The average garden center usually doesn't have the demand or the staff to carry these materials. So they don't.
I know that there are unethical dealers who ship products in a manner that makes the transactions illegal.
I will sell to anyone, anywhere. If the transaction is legal. And yes, I'm working on a list of pumpkin specific items too. But because of labeling laws, the list won't be 100%. Even though the same active ingredient is available for many uses, many products are restricted only to certain crops. Thanks to Uncle Sam & the Worker Reentry inerval law.

For the record, pesticides are not quite as dangerous as guns. It's the users who determine safety. My guns & my pesticides are both very safe. I'm the only one who touches them when they're not locked behind steel doors.

Steve

10/26/2002 5:11:08 PM

Steve,
How does one go about getting a restriced use license? As a consumer, I mean (not a supplier).

Michele

10/27/2002 11:56:41 AM

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It depends on which state you live in. CT is the DEP (dept of environmental protection/pesticide div) NT is the DEC (dept of env. conservation). Some state also have an Agriculture Dept. All states have a governing body of some sort.

The private applicators lisence is much easier to obtain than the commercial versions. Also, there is little or no record keeping or reporting required.

I have access to a nationwide database. List your state & I'll post the phone number.

Steve

10/27/2002 8:03:24 PM