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Midwest Laboratories soil test
9.0 organic matter
84 ppm low phosphorus
101 ppm strong bray phosphorus
1851 potassium
577 magnesium
2800 calcium
175 sodium
7.0 ph
24.3 cation exchange capacity
percentage base saturation (computed)
19.5 k
19.8 mg
57.6 ca
0.0 h
3.1 na
161 ppm nitrate-n 290 pounds/A
176 ppm sulfur
37.4 ppm zinc
12 ppm manganese
45 ppm iron
7.6 copper
1.9 ppm boron
excess lime low
soluble salts 1.9 mmhos/cm

blame it on the wife but she put to much Epsom salts on the garden not understanding what amount I said

water soluble report
189 ppm P
1078 ppm K
232 ppm CA
77 ppm MG
181 ppm NA
199 ppm S

I BELIEVE I NEED more calcium and am not sure when or how much Nitrogen I should add. This is where I grew my 1st place pumpkin last year and I will out of necessity be planting there again in 2014. I am in the process of preparing a new garden area for 2015 which is 25 x 100

12/31/2013 8:31:18 PM

Condo*

N.c.

Your K should be closer to 9% of your base saturation. Cu closer to 2ppm and zink around 5 to 10 ppm.

1/3/2014 9:12:53 AM

Condo*

N.c.

At transplant time I believe it is recommended to have about 30-35 ppm nitrogen.

1/3/2014 9:23:02 AM

cntryboy

East Jordan, MI

I'm a little surprised someone hasn't chimed in on this yet.

1/4/2014 10:50:41 AM

cntryboy

East Jordan, MI

just to keep it neat and tidy, here is what I posted on the other thread.
Epsom Salts is not (in my opinion) the cause of your high sodium. Its not a Salt, but Magnesium Sulphate (a sulfur)

First,
Assuming you got a good sample...and not a hot spot... (you may consider retesting, making sure that you haven't added stuff for at least a month (2 or 3 is better in my opinion) and get a good even sample from soil line to at least 6 inches deep -- for at a minimum of 10 sample sights per 1000 sq feet. Use only CLEAN sampling implements/containers, and NO METAL except stainless steel, Plastic is usually preferred.

It could be due to a large amount of manure you added (assumption due to the Pottasium and OM levels compared to everything else) OR If you didn't add a large amount of manure, did you use chemical fertilizers last year? They are loaded with salt.

That said...
While 3.1% NA is not ideal, but it is not a death wish either (but you should do what you can to keep it from continuing to rise -- ie. find the source and reduce/remove its addition). You can also add Gypsum and compensate for the sodium. You are correct at 57.6% Base Saturation CA needs to be raised -- Gypsum will help with that too.

While I am no expert, you should raise the MG (using Epsom Salts) as well to try and compensate for the High Pottasium. (Your base saturation of MG should be close to double that of the Pottasium) Since yours is so large of a difference, I don't think you will be able to get it there all at one time. Others may have better ideas of what is possible.

1/4/2014 10:51:54 AM

Pumpkin Farm

Going Green

Thank You all for the help. Since I have time I will make changes. I will not be planting till June 15

1/4/2014 7:20:59 PM

Pumpkin Farm

Going Green

It was suggested that I apply 240 pounds of Gypsum and 5 pounds of manganese sulfate 32%, 3 pounds Borax, 25 pounds Alfalfa Meal, 10 pounds Blood Meal and 25 pounds of kelp meal to this 1000 square feet sample!

Do I apply it now or in April when I will start my Cantaloupe and watermelon. My Pumpkins will be started on June 10th.

1/11/2014 7:50:19 PM

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