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            | shazzy | 
            
               Joliet, IL 
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               Does anyone know for certain if the 1274 pollinator plant for the 1807.5 was the same plant that grew the 20% heavy 1351? 
		
				
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               11/26/2011 10:07:07 AM 
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            | TruckTech1471 | 
            
               South Bloomfield, Ohio 
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               I see only one progeny of the 1274 on AGGC as of this date and it is not the 1351. 
		
				
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               11/26/2011 10:20:18 AM 
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            | iceman | 
            
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               Dave will be live and in person at tonights auction Shazzy. You can ask him there  
		
				
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               11/26/2011 10:22:38 AM 
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            | Andy H | 
            
               Brooklyn Corner, Nova Scotia 
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               The GPC info page has the 1351 Stelts- 1274 Stelts x 1605 Sweet at + 20%.  
		
				
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               11/26/2011 10:30:16 AM 
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            | shazzy | 
            
               Joliet, IL 
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               Thanks guys 
		
				
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               11/26/2011 10:45:06 AM 
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            | Venari | 
            
               Ohio 
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               Hey shazzy, another tid bit on the 1807.5.  It is the first 1800# er that accually went "to chart".  Something else to think of. 
		
				
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               11/26/2011 12:40:08 PM 
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            | shazzy | 
            
               Joliet, IL 
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               If the 1274 pollinator is the same plant that produced the 1351, then to have 444" ott pumpkin just about at the chart x 20% heavy genetics is the classic big shell x dense thickwalled overthecharter genetics...but in this case on steroids...Lol. a 439" ott pumpkin at 13.3% heavy equals 2000lbs.  These numbers will not be far out of reach with these type of monster shell x heavy crosses and everything genetically lines up in one of seeds that ends up in the hands of a great grower. 
		
				
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               11/26/2011 2:08:45 PM 
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            | Venari | 
            
               Ohio 
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               Yes, shazzy...as far as I have been told the 1274.0 that grew the 1351.0 which was crazy heavy was indeed the daddy to the 1807.5 
		
				
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               11/26/2011 3:01:21 PM 
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            | UpperPineRunner | 
            
               Linden,PA 
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               Hey my 1274 Stelts, the 943.5 Lengel was a great pumpkin in a trying weather year. Barely had 400 sq. ft. of vine and a late July 5th pollination. I was happy with 12% heavy and 943.5.
  It was carved at a garden center in Virginia and they commented that it had the toughest flesh of any pumpkin they had ever carved. They have been carving for years.  I crossed the 1495 Stelts into it. It should have great potential!  Mark 
		
				
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               11/27/2011 5:04:12 AM 
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            | Greenhouse Grower | 
            
               Madison,Wisconsin 
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               On a similiar note of volume x %heavy how about the 1647 Wallace. The 1647 was 15% heavy and crossed with the 1789est. Wallace that was still growing at a good pace when it went down. Maybe a cross of the 1807.5 and the 1647 would be interesting. :) 
		
				
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               11/28/2011 11:20:41 AM 
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            | shazzy | 
            
               Joliet, IL 
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               Reading my mind GG. Those 2 and the 1789 made my final top 3 choices for 2012 complete and I will hopefully be trying for the 1807 x 1647 both ways and the 1789 x 1647 
		
				
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               11/28/2011 3:40:59 PM 
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            | iceman | 
            
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               Curious Shazz Why would you not do 1789 X 1807 rather than 1789 X 1647 I've been looking hard at these also,  My big monkey rench is that the 1520 Sperry should go in there somewhere 
  
		
				
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               11/28/2011 3:46:49 PM 
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            | Greenhouse Grower | 
            
               Madison,Wisconsin 
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               Shazzy, all of those crosses sound juicy. I will be attempting to make them in the next couple of months. :) 
		
				
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               11/28/2011 4:45:04 PM 
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            | Soopr Sizr | 
            
               Littleton, Colorado 
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               Iceman, try 1520 X 1807 
		
				
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               11/28/2011 4:53:20 PM 
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            | Donkin | 
            
               nOVA sCOTIA 
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               Eddy,why do you say that about the 1520? I have a couple of 1520 Sperry seeds that keep jumping out at me everytime i open my stash. 
		
				
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               11/28/2011 4:58:24 PM 
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            | iceman | 
            
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               Yes for sure I like the 1520 X 1807   I don't think you could go wrong putting the 1807 into anything including Squash. The 1520,  I just look what it did, and for who, and I really think sky's the limit.  Kinda like you,  Just keeps saying pick me Sorta off topic Shazz sorry 
		
				
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               11/28/2011 5:17:55 PM 
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            | shazzy | 
            
               Joliet, IL 
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               Eddy...my thought is to strengthen the line of the freak times a sister freak combo to maybe strengthen a characteristic of the freakness.  It's a cross to use in the future of freak shell size times big and heavy 
		
				
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               11/28/2011 8:48:11 PM 
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            | shazzy | 
            
               Joliet, IL 
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               25 % freak,  25 % world record genetics, 25 % freak's sister that was 15% heavy, and 25 % freak equals the shazzness eddy...lol 
		
				
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               11/28/2011 9:32:01 PM 
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            | shazzy | 
            
               Joliet, IL 
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               And this is saying I already plan on the 1807 x 1647 both ways if it all works out. U should do the 1789 x 1807 eddy. It is also a kick ass potential cross. 
		
				
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               11/28/2011 9:42:47 PM 
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            | iceman | 
            
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               Shazzy  no that's the new word  lol  Shazzness plus I understand your explanation 
  
		
				
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               11/29/2011 12:11:51 PM 
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            | Peace, Wayne | 
            
               Owensboro, Ky. 
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               I have read this post 3 times now, and am glad to say that I finally figured it out!!!! The Z's don't come from the WiZZ!!! Wow, I fell better now!!!! I know that Shazzy (and his dome) and EddyZ, are both freaks!!!! & Good Freaks at that!!!!  LOL Grow em BIG!!! Peace, Wayne  
		
				
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               12/2/2011 12:14:47 AM 
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            | TmVidal | 
            
               Missouri Wine Country 
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               what should i do with my 1810? help me i'm new!!!!!
  
		
				
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               12/3/2011 12:03:51 AM 
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            | Richard | 
            
               Minnesota 
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               Cross it with the freak. 
		
				
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               12/3/2011 12:27:25 AM 
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