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Spudley (Scott)

Alaska

Just like Charlottesville. It matter what the President says and does. This guy just keeps dividing.

8/27/2020 3:18:14 PM

G. Kins

Catinatree, WA

Actually read the New York Times... Even they are allowing that the kid may have been justified. I just dont get why a 17 year old has a gun but hey at least he is still alive. Maybe the New York times realizes that without New York they will be the Pile of Concrete Times. The ants living in the cracks in the concrete will be well served by the former journalistic powerhouse?

8/27/2020 3:30:26 PM

G. Kins

Catinatree, WA

Dividing... or is he sorting the wheat from the chaff. Maybe I should just agree with you Spudley but I need the economy to get going again, and for free capitalism to actually work. That's the boat I am in. Can't afford an economic pansy...

8/27/2020 3:40:24 PM

G. Kins

Catinatree, WA

I really dont care if we have the top economy in the world I just dont trust the Democrats with the basic economy anymore. Sure they are good at handouts but handouts seem to create societal rot. Imho. Sorry for the 3x post.

Trump is some stinky cheese yeah so it ought to be easy for Biden to win... but dang...

I think what it comes down to is the Democrats need to eat some red meat and stop eating soy???

8/27/2020 3:54:49 PM

Iowegian

Anamosa, IA BPIowegian@aol.com

And what about the recent run of blacks killing whites? The 5 year old executed while riding his bicycle? You know, the one the mainstream media refused to cover. You can bet this one gets at least 4 days of media coverage.

There are good people on both sides. There are evil people on both sides. The President continually denounces violence, but he gets blamed for it. He sends federal officers to protect federal buildings from looters and arsonists and is condemned by the media and democrat office holders. Democrat politicians let riots go wild, blame the police and cut police funding. The media won't blame democrats.

Nothing Trump says will satisfy the media. They still hate him for beating Hillary. Not only did they slant the news and polls to discourage Trump supporters, they cheated in the debates by giving Hillary debate questions in advance. And they personally supported Hillary with campaign contributions. Then they thought they could whip up enough hatred against Trump so they could remove him with the impeachment process, but they failed again. That time they came away looking petty and ignorant of how
impeachment works. They aren't going to let up. Now, they have revenge motives.

What they have in Kenosha is a kid who thought he was a cop. Now he has to face the music. Even if his life was endangered and the shootings justified, he should not been running around with a gun pretending to be a super cop. It was a bad parenting failure. Trump had nothing to do with it. Kids pretending to be adults is the responsibility of parents, not the president. But liberals will tell you this is why nanny government needs to raise your kids for you.

8/27/2020 5:43:37 PM

Porkchop(team sLamMer)

Central NY

https://youtu.be/gFQP6dTZG3k

8/27/2020 6:04:29 PM

Spudley (Scott)

Alaska

Leaders lead and followers follow. Jim Jones, Adolf Hitler, David Koresh, David Duke, George Wallace now Donald Trump.

8/27/2020 6:37:41 PM

Frank and Tina

South East

17 year little shit head running around like some kinda cop or security guard. Great example of why guns are definitely not for everyone and every situation. I'm sure Madison would be proud, lol.

8/27/2020 8:22:35 PM

G. Kins

Catinatree, WA

Right... the kid protecting property is the shit head. So what does that make the people destroying the world??? Shit heads x 70... ??? I hope 66 million Americans have more than one brain cell.

8/27/2020 9:28:40 PM

Smallmouth (Team Ozark)

Missouri

Hits a kid over the head with a skateboard and gets shot... todays america.

8/27/2020 9:29:06 PM

G. Kins

Catinatree, WA

Maybe they dont. Biden is their leader. If you have two brain cells then Trump seems like the better choice.

8/27/2020 9:29:30 PM

eastkypumpkin(Dwight)

Prestonsburg,ky

It amazes me everyday how blind liberals are.

8/27/2020 9:51:58 PM

Spudley (Scott)

Alaska

If women hadn't marched would they have the right to vote? If African Americans hadn't marched would they? During the civil rights marches Police openly beat the protesters sicked the dogs onem. Now they just shootem. Don't lose site of why they March. This time it's about Equal Justice under the law. Protest can get messy but when an armed Vigilante who has no business there shows up and kills two Americans that's not acceptable.

8/27/2020 10:16:45 PM

Smallmouth (Team Ozark)

Missouri

I’ll repeat myself, hit a kid on the head with a skateboard and then gets shot. Mob then tries to beat the kid and they get shot at. Many of these mob\antifa\blm beatings have been fatal.

I guess the biggest take away from this is if you try to outrun a bullet on your skateboard, you’d better have Swiss bearings. :(

Spud, it is very clear you don’t have a clue what is going on down here today. You sit up there, seems like you’re high 95% of the time, and sound like a buffoon daily with your posts.

8/28/2020 8:40:26 AM

Iowegian

Anamosa, IA BPIowegian@aol.com

Frank. it is illegal for a 17 year old kid to run around with a rifle in most states, with the exception of hunting. And a lot pf states require parental supervision. It is also illegal for adults to run around town without a permit, an nobody issues permits to minors. So he obviously broke at least 1 law, likely several laws. So what do we need? More laws to make things tougher on honest people? Because laws certainly don't stop nuts or criminals.

What if the kid had jumped into parent's car and run over some people. Would we have calls to ban cars? Ban high capacity engines?

8/28/2020 8:42:56 AM

Smallmouth (Team Ozark)

Missouri

This is at Stone Mountain, Georgia.

Justify this anyone:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XtURzWUE_g0

8/28/2020 8:52:23 AM

North Shore Boyz

Mill Bay, British Columbia

Luke, I don’t know what to say about that video. Their spoken words are shocking and their actions pretty scary and outright threatening in a normal society. There are bigger problems than most of you realize, thanks for posting that, it’s a bit of an eye opener especially to a “white boy” living in British Columbia, Canada.

8/28/2020 9:10:05 AM

cojoe

Colorado

Those folks in Georgia are vivid proof that racism and hate is alive and well in black america too.Makes me want to turn my guns in and go hug spudley and frank and tina.

8/28/2020 11:10:06 AM

Iowegian

Anamosa, IA BPIowegian@aol.com

That kind of hatred and racism took more than 3 years to create. Problems have been festering for many years. 8 years with a black president only got the violence started in places like Baltimore and Ferguson. We were on the road to fixing things when covid hit. Minority unemployment at lowest levels in history. People given good jobs, those already employed got raises to keep up with the entry level wage increase. But look at where the problem areas are now. Big cities run by democrats. Here in eastern Iowa we are getting spillover from the Chicago drug war. If there is a murder in Cedar Rapids, it is a sure bet that a victim or perpetrator is a Chicago drug runner.

We have a bigger fish to fry.Cedar Rapids was torn apart by 140 mph winds. A lot of people are homeless, the streets still lined with dead trees and building debris.PBS finally aired coverage, showed a complex where my wife once had a home health patient. A lot of people were legal refugees who fled a civil war in Africa. Those people know the horrors of war, found safety in a welcoming city and now are homeless again. That guy with the bull horn on Luke's video said he has nothing left to lose. He still as is native homeland, home, family, electronics. Those refugees lost their family members, home, possessions had to flee with basically nothing, Now they are in a strange place with everything destroyed. Knowing the people in the area, they will be well cared for. But there are thousands in the same situation. Maybe those protesters should just see what it really means to have nothing left to lose.

8/28/2020 12:22:12 PM

Frank and Tina

South East

Trumps America made great again: Dont like the left, dont like the press, dont like the blacks, dont like the asians, dont like the mexicans, dont like anything foreign. Cant say it say out loud just yet, because its frowned upon, but you can hint at it. You can live it and defend it, argue for it. And Trump made it ok to be proud about it. Trumps America 2020, aint it great!!! Law and order!!

8/28/2020 7:39:28 PM

Iowegian

Anamosa, IA BPIowegian@aol.com

Frank, your last rant serves to call Trump supporters all racists. It is worthy of an ignoramus, but it earned you some adjectives I really prefer not to use.

A person can like some of the things of the left and right. A person can like honest press and dislike biased press. Not everyone has a closed tiny little mind.

But then you bring in not liking blacks, Asians and Mexicans. That amounts to an accusation of racism straight out of the mouth (or keyboard) of a detestable, hate filled (expletive deleted) How dare you call Trump supporters racist? You know I will be voting for Trump, so I assume that this is aimed at me, as well as several others who post here. Well, Bucko, when it comes to making racism accusations, you don't know your arse from a hole in the ground. I just thought of the people who I trust my life to. My gastro doc who caught my cancer while it was still at a curable stage is direct from Africa. If I ever need surgery on the ruptured disk in my neck, the only neurosurgeon I will accept is a black guy in Des Moines. My neurologist is a woman of Chinese descent. My acupuncture doctor who also is my daughter's primary MD is the son of an immigrant from Korea. My cardiologist is a Muslim, middle name Mohammed. My orthopedist is a native of India. My primary care physician and oncologist are both women. And as far as Mexicans are concerned, I owe a lifetime debt of gratitude to the Mexican family who moved next to my Grandfather. Not only did we play with the kids our age when we visited, but they looked after Grandpa as he got older and needed help.

We don't need hate mongers and dividers like someone from the south east. Always pushing the lie that Trump makes racism OK. If you want to call me prejudiced, then do it for the right reason, not the racism lie. I don't like sniveling sore losers who are so stupid that they think they can win votes with lies and insults.

8/28/2020 10:04:34 PM

Frank and Tina

South East

Its funny how I speak about Trump's America in a facetious manner and right away you feel insulted and personally targeted. I must have hit a nerve.

I also think its wonderful your doctors are such a diverse group of people and I sincerely hope they can help heal you. Although I'm not sure how the ethnicity of your doctors is suppose to be a character witness for you? It doesn't matter anyway. This was a facetious critique of America's political and ideological climate as a whole and was meant rhetorical.

Trumps America has allowed a fringe group of people to come fore ward from the shadows into the light. They help steer and set the tone. Nationalist and right wing fringe people with their tentacles in shady organisation are part of the current administration. Their policies incite hatred and division. Whether it being against immigrants trying to cross the border, the press, the left or black lives matter his words, his policies and actions have done nothing to heal. If anything they are fuel for the fire.

All Trump supporters racist? of course not. But lets not act like they don't exist, lets not act like most Trump voters are not white, lets not act that skin color doesn't matter in this country. Lets not act like black America is angry for nothing. Because its that very ignorance that is the root cause of all trouble to start of with.

Good leadership would help.






8/28/2020 11:03:16 PM

Iowegian

Anamosa, IA BPIowegian@aol.com

Thought it was funny to call people racist. Thought it was funny that someone took it personally. Trying to laugh it off. Well, it was not a joke. You are not a joker. You are just obnoxious.

8/28/2020 11:07:46 PM

Smallmouth (Team Ozark)

Missouri

Frank won’t touch my post above, justify this. This has nothing to do with Trump. Go to 2:50 in and that could be any family in a minivan stopped by the militia hating white people. Explain Frank, for a friend.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XtURzWUE_g0

8/28/2020 11:25:56 PM

G. Kins

Catinatree, WA

I have seen a couple "Rural Americans against racism" signs here. Dont buy into it. The generation younger than me is not racist. Some older people I know are, and they wont change... oh well. They aren't harming anyone. There are some young racists... they are ones protesting against whites. They hate see whites... They are "color"ist/ racist. Pretty much no one else is.

8/29/2020 1:02:59 AM

G. Kins

Catinatree, WA

It's just the media agenda. They sell toxic hype and they will never change. They ought to... but they don't know how.

8/29/2020 1:07:19 AM

G. Kins

Catinatree, WA

Can't believe the left is buying their garbage. Wake up... Pretty much everyone is mixed race already. Obama, for example. This is all so juvenile.

8/29/2020 1:11:38 AM

Garden Rebel (Team Rebel Rousers)

Lebanon, Oregon

The Liberal media gives the impression, as hard as they may try, that Trump supporters are racist. The blacks you see protesting do not represent black America, not even close. They only want you to believe that. The phrase, “your a racist” is being thrown around. Fly a Trump 2020 flag behind your truck, you must be racist. As far as I’m concerned being assumed racist is to me similar to being called the “N” word.

F&T, your posts have always been very creative. As far as I’m concerned you support everything out of Saul Alinsky’s play book: 8 steps to Socialism. People, read this quick read: https://247sports.com/college/washington/Board/102670/Contents/Saul-Alinskys-8-steps-to-socialism-54116506/

This is what the Democrats support. If you support this of course you hate Trump. Trump is who we have right now. The opposition supports everything on this list. My wife’s family escaped a communist country. You do not want this. BLM and the media’s relentless push to target Trump supporters as racist and is a media joke.

We will never change anybody’s minds on this board. We are all good people here, working hard for our families and just wanting to live our lives in peace. Don’t get sucked into most of the media. Fact: The media is telling you want it wants you to believe. Take a step back and use your brain. If a communist America is your thing, then by all means hate Trump and his supporters but be prepared for a civil war.

8/29/2020 2:01:36 AM

Frank and Tina

South East

Garden rebel:

Very little truth in your statements. Blame what you want on the media, but racial problems are just as american as apple pie it seems. They are not invented or fiction. Al tough if your white they might as well be. Hard to relate.

The accusations of Trumps racism long pre-date the current events. Associations, statements and behavior he has shown in past make that a rather reasonable assumption.

Blatant in your face racism?, of course not! Its always subtle, hidden and shrouded and comes with public denial because its comes attached with a nasty stigma. Only behind closed doors and in the right company the cloak comes off. You cant see it but its always there. Living in the Deep Red South I can speak about that from experience. Everybody? No there's plenty of good people on this earth. Buts it pervasive, and still all over the place. Its not fake, its very real.

As liberal media "create and Impression of racial bias among Trump supporters" Right wing media makes you believe its the liberals, their socialists who want open borders and approve of violence with no sense of law and order. And judging by your socialist comment you kinda fell for that.

Your democrats want socialism statement is kinda lame and lacks any decent argument. It doesn't take much research to find out the opposition does not support anything on that list. Its excellent fox news propaganda to keep the base riled up though. People love to parrot without thinking.

And then you end up with Communism and a threaten with civil war. Your all over the place. I think you made my point for me.

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8/29/2020 7:08:44 AM

Frank and Tina

South East

Luke: Yes I see it. No I don't think its good, I don't like it, and I don't approve it. If I were to search the internet though, you think I could find the white version of this Militia? I think it would be rather easy. And is what they are doing an action or a reaction. Lets call a reaction for argument sake, What are they reaction on? Answer me that.

What going on right now has been brewing for decades. It couldn't come to a head under a worse President. Still waiting for healing words, still waiting for wisdom

8/29/2020 7:08:52 AM

TruckTech1471

South Bloomfield, Ohio

Way to propagate the lies, spuds. You do exactly what the lying media dog-whistles you to do: Interject Trump into whatever you perceive to help the liberal cause regardless of whether or not it has anything to do with him.

You're really no better yourself than you perceive the president to be, just a liberal version.

8/29/2020 7:17:28 AM

TruckTech1471

South Bloomfield, Ohio

Your opening post says it all: You approve of the looting, rioting, and mayhem in the streets of liberal cities by anarchists from God only knows where outside those jurisdictions and cry foul when someone has the guts to stand up to it.

It's all fun and games until someone gets hurt, eh spuds? Reap what you sow, buddy.

8/29/2020 7:23:28 AM

roger80

Susquehanna Pa

“You know what I say? Protesters your ass. I don’t talk about my ass,” Trump said. “We’re not going to let our country be destroyed by a bunch of nut jobs.” Does this sound like healing words or wisdom? Can anyone tell me what he means by, “I don’t talk about my ass”?

8/29/2020 7:52:13 AM

TruckTech1471

South Bloomfield, Ohio

Why should he offer "healing" words to anarchists?

8/29/2020 8:53:03 AM

G. Kins

Catinatree, WA

To the media, Obama is black. Kamala is black. She looks like a sunburned Italian woman to me. If a person is mixed race, pure African, or pure European... who the frick cares! Only the media puts these stupid labels on people, like we are chess pieces not humans. Pretty sure the media elites only see white pawns and black pawns they dont see humans. Do you folks want to be narrow agitators ike them??? Go for it, have fun. You could just order yourself a truckload of manure instead...

8/29/2020 12:02:56 PM

G. Kins

Catinatree, WA

Obama is half white... Is he supposed to give himself reparations?

8/29/2020 12:04:11 PM

Iowegian

Anamosa, IA BPIowegian@aol.com

I just saw a few videos of the incident in question, including an interview with the shooter, then I read the title of this thread " Trump Vigilante Kills Two!". Lets break this down some.

First thing is that Trump was in no way connected with the incident. He has always condemned violence. The 17 year old kid just happened to like him. He is from illinois, good chance he likes the Cubs. Maybe we shoud call him Cubs vigilante.

Second, we wasn't there as a vigilante. He was there to render first aid to protesters who are injured. He brought his gun for self defense. Maybe instead of vigilante we should call him volunteer medic.

Then the killings; the videos showed that he was not the aggressor. In each shooting incident he was trying to get away from multiple attackers. Only when he was cornered or knocked to the ground, had no escape route and feared great bodily harm or death did he shoot. And he only sot those attacking him. No one else was hurt.

So maybe the thread title should be Cubs fan volunteer medic attacked by violent mob. forced to shoot 2 in self defense.

8/29/2020 2:08:44 PM

Iowegian

Anamosa, IA BPIowegian@aol.com

Roger 80, It shouldn't be hard to understand what Trump meant by "We’re not going to let our country be destroyed by a bunch of nut jobs.”

These riots have gone too fa. They are not about protesting police violence. If that were the case, they would be peaceful and marching on city property. All they are now is an excuse to loot and destroy. They see stuff in the stores they want, they break in and take it. They resent others having stuff they don't have so they burn it. They see people they don't like, so they beat and sometimes murder them.

There is only one way to "heal" that kind of problem. You take the thugs off the street and lock them up until they learn how to behave.

And maybe he doesn't talk about people who act like asses.

8/29/2020 2:19:04 PM

G. Kins

Catinatree, WA

Property destruction hurts everyone. Probably should give criminals and felons the right to vote, even from jail. That would help never-do-wells feel more empowered and force the government to listen to those who are still treated like slaves.

"This is how society works." They/we dont know how society works because they've not been allowed to be a part of it. Crime, poverty, and inequality really aren't these people's fault, or my fault. Who get money when the fed prints it? Every time they print money it destroys society! They are the things and looters. Via inflation, destruction of savings, and more of the money they print goes to the rich than to the poor which furthers inequality. Lastly, it's not capitalist to print money. Its a financial oligarchy. I am ready to protest. Thumbs up BLM. Thumbs down, entitled liberal white antifa losers!!!

8/30/2020 11:26:17 AM

G. Kins

Catinatree, WA

*Thugs, not things. They are over at Jackson hole enjoying fresh mountain air while looting our country.

8/30/2020 11:28:21 AM

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