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Fissssh

Simi valley, ca

Financial genius MY butt !!!!! ALL those genius moves he has made got my stock looking like SH*t, Merry christmas from the president !!!!

12/24/2018 11:43:01 AM

Fissssh

Simi valley, ca

THat guy is as lame as they get !!!!

12/24/2018 11:47:43 AM

TruckTech1471

South Bloomfield, Ohio

The stock market itself is just as much to blame, investing and selling off due more to speculation than sound reports. China is slowly coming around to free and fair trade, albeit very slowly, and we've got them buying U.S. soybeans once again and lowering their import tariff on U.S.-made automobiles from 40% to 15%. NAFTA is a thing of the past and the USMCA, once ratified, will bode well for U.S. producers and labor. Righting the bad deals of the past is going to take some time and occasional pain, but being the largest consumer nation on earth carries some weight. The rest of the world knows that, when we do well, they do well.

12/24/2018 12:13:59 PM

TruckTech1471

South Bloomfield, Ohio

And the Fed's timing of an interest rate hike certainly isn't boosting Wall Street confidence, either.

12/24/2018 12:17:39 PM

Iowegian

Anamosa, IA BPIowegian@aol.com

The stock market is a roller coaster. It goes up, it goes down, then repeats. Always has, always will. Doesn't matter who is in office; the big money people have more influence on the market than politicians. If you lost value, just hold on until it goes up again. You can look at the lower prices now as a good time to buy. The old adage is buy low, sell high. People who panic and sell when it drops are the ones who make it drop more and faster. Computer programs have made it worse. People have them set to sell of when the market drops. If the volatility is too much stress, wait until you have made your money back and then sell and invest in something else.

Relax. Don't let politics, news reports and finances ruin Christmas. Remember the reason for the season. Merry Christmas.

12/24/2018 12:26:43 PM

Glenoma Kins

Glenoma, WA

Fed rate and stock market are inversely related. Stock market has more to do with Chairman Powell who is very much the grinch. You cant fire the grinch though. Lol anyhow the stock market has liked trump i dont think it likes Powell. If you want your stocks to do well actvally you might want to support Trump in his criticism of Powell. No good would come from crashing the economy it would benefit Trump but he does not want the economy trashed. Thats why he is critical of raising rates. Liberals and Republicans- everyone-should want wage inflation. Fed wants debt inflation not wage inflation. They are the grinch. Only the liberal/fake media is in favor of keeping everyone poor.

12/24/2018 1:00:14 PM

Glenoma Kins

Glenoma, WA

folks...If you have wealth someone will try to steal it.

12/24/2018 1:02:29 PM

Glenoma Kins

Glenoma, WA

Learn the law of nature: where there are sheep... there are wolves.

12/24/2018 1:05:59 PM

Glenoma Kins

Glenoma, WA

Sorry if anyone lost money but thats a direct result of the federal reserves explicitly stated over riding/ obsessive policy (aka war) against bottom level wage earners. They are hiking rates not out of REAL inflation worries they are worried about WAGE inflation. And raising rates causes inflation so the cure they prescribe causes the illness. They are bad doctors and its an unhealthy hospital... Take a day off and think about who cares about the sheep and who does not.

12/24/2018 1:30:16 PM

Wolfpack83

central Nc

Good points. The fed has hit me hard lately, but I don't blame them. Fact is, from 2008 to 2015 there were no increases. Now as GDP has grown and the market reached an unsustainable level, rates needed to be raised to tighten the belt. The target has always been between 2 and 5% and we are on the low side of that right now. Again, I hate it, but it is economics.

So, with the market sky-high, it only needed a tiny shove to topple. Between the fed rates, tariff wars, and now gov't shutdown people are anxious and pessimistic and pressing the sell buttons as fast as they can.

12/24/2018 1:45:29 PM

Glenoma Kins

Glenoma, WA

Holiday anxiety lol...? Well I would like a positive direction for our country. If Feds want to slow things down Trump should push to get major infrastructure work done. I disagree about rates needing to be so high I think the fed is drunk at the wheel but the only thing worse than that might be if congress offered to be designated driver... I wish i could trust our locally elected officials to get behind the wheel but that might be worse.

12/24/2018 2:25:46 PM

Wolfpack83

central Nc

Yeah it's tough to swallow but I think if the previous fed chair did her job it would be easier on the economy now. 2.5 percent is fine but the curve is too sharp. We shouldn't shock the economy with all these raises at once. I remember a certain occasion in 1929 when the fed thought they could control everything through rate changes...

12/24/2018 3:20:51 PM

marley

Massachusetts

omg, highest 1 day gain in 10 years today,,, f'in trump.

12/26/2018 5:04:32 PM

Frank and Tina

South East

unstable president, unstable market.

12/27/2018 4:19:28 PM

Iowegian

Anamosa, IA BPIowegian@aol.com

Was Herbert Hoover unstable, cause the Great Depression? Was George W Bush unstable, cause the Great Recession? I might have to concede on that one. Nixon was unstable, the only President to resign in disgrace. The Dow Jones hit 1000 for the first time about then. I don't think he could take credit or blame for the market.

But I guess when someone hates losing n election so much, you can pick out any reason to justify your hate. But I wouldn't give Trump that much credit for influencing the stock market.

Look at history. In the past 45 years the Dow Jones has increased by a factor of 23. There have been ups and downs, with the general trend being up at a slightly faster rate than inflation. In that time we had a less than one term president who lost election for pardoning Nixon. A one term president who lost because our embassy was captured by a terrorist state and his opponent promised them weapons if they held the hostages until after the election. We had a 2 term President with the onset of Alzhiemers. We had a one term president who lost re-election after winning a war but no one could read his lips. We had a President who couldn't keep his pants zipped and got impeached, but narrowly escaped conviction. We had a president lead us into the longest war in our history over make believe weapons of mass destruction. We had a President win the Nobel Peace prize for doing nothing and then led us through 8 years of expanding war.

Anyone who thinks that a President can wreck the stock market after looking at that parade of White House failures doesn't understand the economy or history.

12/27/2018 6:05:47 PM

huffspumpkins

canal winchester ohio

Now there's something different on this board. A rational, thought out, correct statement.
Well Done Hoss.

12/27/2018 6:16:14 PM

Smallmouth (Team Ozark)

Missouri

Very well put Iowa, especially your last point.

12/27/2018 7:20:31 PM

Frank and Tina

South East

Trumps war on China definitely has an effect on the stock market and the country.
Trumps one man show on national security has an effect on the stock market and the country
Trumps unstable and spur of the moment behavior has an effect on the stock market.

Sure the market always bounces back, eventually.

But I guess when someone is a fan boy and has drank the kool aid, infatuated and impressed by cheap nationalistic rhetoric and naively believes the lies and deception, then it would very hard to realize, let alone admit that the object of admiration is merely a fraud and a charlatan. Unless your part of the "base" in that case anything goes.

Anyone who thinks that a President can not wreck the stock market after looking for two years at our current tweeter in chief doesn't understand the economy or history.

12/27/2018 9:11:29 PM

Iowegian

Anamosa, IA BPIowegian@aol.com

Nice reply, Frank.

Trump got China to back off on tariffs, buy soybeans. He showed backbone, standing up to their unfair trade policies and theft of technology and copyrights. Don't forget that he appointed a very close personal friend of the Chinese president to be Ambassador. Go ahead and believe the lies that the media is spreading. Trump is way ahead of them. He negotiated better trade deals with Canada and Mexico. It is not all the disaster CNN tells you it is.

How about the democrat's one party war on American security? They did a 180 flip flop on border security. Switched from opposing illegal immigration to cheering it on. Does that have am effect on the stock market? And crying to stay in the Syrian Civil War? Who got us in that? The Nobel Peace Prize winner who spread war for 8 years? Yeah, peace will wreck the stock market, at least for the merchants of death. Those stocks could stand a hit. Profiting from war is evil.

We learned from the soon to be ex United Nations Ambassador that she used Trump's seemingly erratic behavior to our advantage. Got other nations to make concessions in fear of what he might do if they don't. Maybe that wasn't being crazy, it was being smart.

Yes, there are times that Trump should have his tweeter shoved where the sun doesn't shine. I definitely don't like his environmental policies and he is mushy on support for the 2nd amendment. I won't vote for him, but I won't hate him. I will pray for him. Prayer accomplishes more than hate.

2 years is not history, it is current events. But look at those 2 years. Despite recent declines, the market us still higher, the economy is growing, unemployment is down, gas prices are down. It is not all doom and gloom. Its time for some to stop chewing on those sour grapes.

12/28/2018 7:22:37 AM

OrangeMonsters

lol " war on China" now that's a classic, how about a war on trump! the man cannot even walk his dog without the liberals getting all up in a tizzy! Frank you Over-lords in China have been using unfair fair trade practices for decades. and why don't you have a look at their human rights abuses as well as what they are doing now in Africa, i know it must be nice and warm and fuzzy digesting all the anti-Trump and pro Obama stories that the Liberal controlled press feeds you on a daily basis, while they ignore all the nastiness that China is up to.
Heads in the sand but that's ok as there must be a lot of liberal newspapers in that hole..

https://qz.com/africa/1110191/africans-in-china-an-exhibit-comparing-africans-to-animals-shows-the-chinese-problematic-racial-attitudes/

12/28/2018 2:02:03 PM

Frank and Tina

South East

Orange monsters, If Trump weren't so obnoxious, self absorbed, ill-mannered, arrogant and such a bad and obvious liar, maybe he would sway the press and a lot more democrats. China, border protection, fair trade. If done right in compromise even democrats would hop aboard.
But no. When ever he has a change to reach across the aisle he will double down on what ever looney tune rhetoric he came up with. When ever he has the opportunity to be a president to all Americans he caters to the few and that usually means far right and nationalistic morons that roam the dark corners of the internet and society.
Long story short, if he could stop being a D#$K all the time, he could get a lot more accomplished without pissing have the country off. Unfortunately, pissing people off is what he thrives on. That and lots fighting, in-fighting, chaos and endless admiration for him, that's all he wants.

If you can't see that, your head might be in the sand to.

12/28/2018 4:31:07 PM

Glenoma Kins

Glenoma, WA

If you are going to be that hard on Trump... you gotta at least admit nice-guy Obama did not earn his Peace prize? I talked to my brother about politics and his main reason for not liking Trump was that Trump inexplicably let go of an umbrella outside an airplane. So add littering to his list of sins... Anyhow my brother is fairly smart but still cant rationally process the difference between that and bombing ... Completely destroying...another country. Its a bizarre quirk of psychology. Its not just him... Its simply what happens when we are not careful... We are under a lot of stress here in the USA. Its not all the fault of one person.

12/28/2018 5:34:47 PM

Glenoma Kins

Glenoma, WA

If you really are honest about it what percent of the stress that is out of your control really has anything to do with Trump? I dont like psychologists much lol and I worry enough for a dozen people... So who am I to talk.

12/28/2018 5:55:17 PM

Iowegian

Anamosa, IA BPIowegian@aol.com

The whole mess in Washington tells us one thing for certain. Political parties care more for partisan power than the people they represent. BOTH parties are full of swamp rats and sewer rats. As long as we vote for democrats and republicans, it will not change. Wake up people. Democrats don't care for immigrants or citizens; they just want to have the power and money. Same thing for republicans. But the average voter is too stupid to see that. They think that if they don't pick the winner, they wasted their vote. Well, I refuse to waste my votes on red rats or blue rats. I will vote for someone who I think will do what is right for America. If my candidate loses, so be it. I followed my conscience. I would rather vote for a losing honest person than vote for a winning rat.

12/28/2018 6:41:00 PM

Wolfpack83

central Nc

Waitaminute. Who are we saying is honest? Lol.

12/28/2018 9:26:44 PM

Glenoma Kins

Glenoma, WA

There are so many things wrong its almost infinite but within every problem is a solution to another problem. Poverty and over-population is not a problem it is a solution. Wealth is not a problem... it is also a solution. We have to start to think big... Bigger than just ourselves. More thoughts later. I cant post much now.

12/28/2018 10:17:46 PM

DKrus

Cheshire Ma USA

How quickly the haters forget what the stock market was when one of their "heros' was President! It is called the Great recession of Barak Obama, Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Shumer. Why anyone would think putting them back in power is a good idea is beyond me.

12/29/2018 9:59:16 AM

Spudley (Scott)

Alaska

Is it possible to be a stable Genius and a Moron at the same time?

12/30/2018 1:06:06 AM

Iowegian

Anamosa, IA BPIowegian@aol.com

Spudley, the one that comes to mind is Bill Clinton. He was incredibly book smart, figured out how to become a governor and president. But when it came to women, his thoughts came from below the belt. And his genitals proved to be ultimate morons, got him impeached, made him a laughing stock for the whole world, total embarrassment for the nation.

12/30/2018 11:44:26 AM

Jimbo01 (Team Bubba)

DeWitt Michigan

Clinton wasn't only book smart, he seems to found a way to have sex and not pay for it. Compared to a billionaire paying for sex is pretty embarrassing for someone that is leading a nation.

12/30/2018 2:11:24 PM

Iowegian

Anamosa, IA BPIowegian@aol.com

Clinton paid Paula Jones $850,000 to settle her lawsuit out of court. The Monica affair caused him to be banned from presenting cases before the Supreme Court, his Arkansas law license was suspended for 5 years, and he had to pay a $25,000 fine.

Fr from free for Slick Willy

Stormy Daniels was ordered to pay Trump $340,000.

That puts Donnie $1,215,000 ahead of Willy.

Both have embarrassed themselves with their conduct.

12/30/2018 2:37:42 PM

Spudley (Scott)

Alaska

So glad to hear the reason you all didn't vote for Bill Clinton was because of your high moral standards that's good to know.

1/21/2019 3:04:48 PM

TruckTech1471

South Bloomfield, Ohio

I didn't vote for Clinton because he was everything you claim Trump to be.

1/21/2019 8:40:18 PM

Spudley (Scott)

Alaska

The Emperor has no clothes.

1/21/2019 10:09:32 PM

Iowegian

Anamosa, IA BPIowegian@aol.com

I voted for Clinton. I voted for every democrat candidate starting with Jimmy Carter and ending with Obama's 2nd term.

I don't vote based on moral character only. Track record of doing as they promised in the past, how their policies coincide with my idea of what the country should do.

But I admit that moral character played a BIG part in deciding to vote for Gary Johnson in 2016. Or should I say voting against both Clinton and Trump.

1/21/2019 11:26:35 PM

Spudley (Scott)

Alaska

Gary Johnson is a stoner I guess if you apply the do no harm theory he was a good choice.

1/22/2019 12:00:27 AM

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