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Bristol R.I. USA

It's sad that such a talented singer died the other day. I have been going round for round with some people on facebook about this, Here was a woman that was a multi-millionair that had all the reasources to get sober yet continued to use. We seldom look at how many of our servicemen and woman are laying down their lives for freedom yet we spend over 17 minutes on the today show honoring Whitney Houston. A tragedy for her family. Our service people give their lives in defense of our country yet they aren't honored the way a celebrity is. Kids need more hero's like our Marines, Sailors and soldiers, Fireman, Police, EMS, Not another drug addicted celebrity. I really do think its sad that she died because it didn't need to happen. What's your thoughts?

2/13/2012 8:07:09 AM

Waquoit Mass

you hit it kenny a crackhead is a crackhead

2/13/2012 8:50:39 AM

Bristol R.I. USA

Dave, America needs more hero's like our serviceman and workers like fire, police and EMS. Not another drug induced death. It's sad to see a talented woman fall to such an addiction an addiction that many people suffer from. Houstons singing of the National Anthem was nothing short of legendary. What a legacy. They spent more time during the grammy's on Whitney Houston then they spent on any honoring our hero's serving abroad. America needs to understand that people serve and die. They should be honored and remembered.

2/13/2012 9:37:15 AM

Linden, Mi.,

Kennytheheat, Thanks, I agree !

2/13/2012 11:18:04 AM

North Vancouver, British Columbia

Hey Kenny, most interesting is your second sentence "I have been going round for round with some people on facebook"

You gotta stop picking fights...life is too short for that.

2/13/2012 11:21:49 AM

North Vancouver, British Columbia

...but yes Kenny...you are right that the service men and women deserve more accolades than some singer/actor that wasted her talent and career...like Dave said.

2/13/2012 11:32:28 AM

Waquoit Mass

hey glen your right except if your talkin smack about sports teams.its the personal insults that make life to short.

2/13/2012 3:46:35 PM

North Smithfield, RI

Money just don't buy happiness .

2/13/2012 6:14:42 PM

Bristol R.I. USA

Is Glen making friends again?

2/13/2012 7:26:14 PM

Omaha, Ne.

Sad another addict dies. I have had addicts die that I have known. one in a river, one stepped in front of a train. some are lost to relapse and I fear the news for there faces. I have seen so many fallen under the physical auction. Where every cell in your body screams for more. Or the obsession of the mind that lies to you constantly that tells you that your clean now, you can a have just one (not even on drink). Then when you do your life is consumed.
Who's next! me? I'm a x drug addict I have be sober for 9 years not because of resources or money. What makes me different is having a loving family will fight for me. The ones who die of the disease of a addiction. Are the one who are alone. Please pray for me and others like me. Her money her fame was a death sentence.

2/13/2012 9:30:44 PM

Omaha, Ne.

How does her death have to do with the men and women who served. Who could ever be compared to that. They do have many monuments and days to honer them.
Can't we give her, her last few minutes of fame?

2/13/2012 9:40:09 PM

Omaha, Ne.

More that died from the disease of addiction
John Belushi,Mike Bloomfield,Mikey Welsh,Billy Mays,West Arkeen,Jon Vincent,River Phoenix,Chris Penn,Hank the angry drunken dwarf,Jim Morrson,Keith Moon,Heath Ledger. More and more. They couldn't stop. They didn't want to die. They didn't know how. Or just couldn't It is a disease.

2/13/2012 10:10:04 PM

Bristol R.I. USA

Okay North Shore...keep hiding in the shadows...You got me ignored yet you respond to my posts expecting me to see it ???? only if I don't sign on...lol............ Anyway Darren, I hate drug use and I really feel bad for those that get caught up in using drugs. its a deadly addiction. I hate drug dealers...they grow rich on the addictions and miseries of other people. I see it everyday. Decent people are being destroyed by drug use. Darren I think it's really good that you're sober. I mean that 100 percent. It does take a strong person to maintain that and continue to feel as you do.

Thoulsands of people die a month because of Drug use. I just think that their putting that woman on a pedestal, Not one of those Hollywood stars dared to say anything about Drug use and the dangers of such. My point was that it was sad and tragic but nevertheless it's no more tragic then the serviceman who die or come back maimed. They seemed to continue to elevate this woman to god like status while the Armed forces got no recognition by our Hollywood types.

2/14/2012 8:58:14 AM

Omaha, Ne.

So Kenny what I hear you saying is that she should not be appreciated because she was and addict. Therefor all the good she had done should be canceled out. She gave her time and money and love to the ones who served our country. She has earned her spot in history. It was not given to her she payed for it with her blood sweat and tears and now her life. A life of fame takes a high toll on a persons life. living with out friends (the real ones). Living with people kissing your a**. Chased by people contently. Losing the chance to ever be human. All I see Kenny, is her locked in a room with no one, like a scared little girl. With no hope.
To compare her death to the ones serving our country is not fair. She gave to so many. And all they did was keep taking from her kind heart.
There are no days or monuments to the thousands that die of a addiction. But they are people who are good and kind. Mothers and fathers,sons,daughters,drug dealers,prisoner,actors,singers and service men and women.
Don't hate the user. There not weak. Very few will survive

2/14/2012 10:26:26 AM

Bristol R.I. USA

Darren, I think you where missing my point. I do not think that anyone shouldn't be appreciated for their accomplishments for being a drug addict. You mention her losing her chance to ever be human...That's a little bit overboard don't you think? I have no personal vendetta or ax to grind with this Ms. Houston My main issue is the god like status that we give some celebrities and how some people are more concerned with pop culture and their own little bubble of a life. You have all these Celebrities at the Grammy's getting on their soap boxes talking about Whitney Houston, I bet more then half of them didn't even have much contact with her.

When you're in Hollywood, there are temptations. The fast life..It must be hard to maintain a home life as well as family life. Please don't say I hate the user....It would have been nice that in times like these when we now face more military action that maybe we could recognize our military. My issue isn't with anyone except our society that will dismiss the hardships and deaths of our military and will honor a pop star regardless of how they died. I myself have never bashed any drug user.....

2/14/2012 11:06:55 AM

Omaha, Ne.

I have been in the front lines of drug addiction for long time. But in this war victims getting bombed are hated. And considered the ones causing the problem.
The idea if they would just stop using. or selling to use. there would be no problem.
Here's how I was destroyed. Like Whitney this poison was freely available. 2nd I was never taught that one wrong choice was like stepping off a cliff. There was no coming back. I made only one wrong choice, that was the very first hit. After that there was no more choices I was a addict who spent every day for the next 20 years trying to control it and trying to stop. It is not the same for everyone but this is what it was like for me.
If there is anyone suffering or has a loved one that is. I will help in any way I can.

2/14/2012 11:10:59 AM

Omaha, Ne.

Don't get me wrong Kenny. I don't mean to take this out on you. You have a good heart. Just your idea that she had a choice.

2/14/2012 11:20:46 AM

Mn

She has a few of the best songs I have ever heard and performed, to bad drug abuse got the best of her. Its not the use its the abuse.

2/14/2012 11:33:28 AM

Bristol R.I. USA

The singing of the National Anthem was nothing short of what legends are made of.

2/14/2012 11:38:19 AM

Rhode Island

to me the world lost a great talent not this weekend but over ten years ago when drug use had already started taking its toll on her magnificant voice.very sad to see the decline. but theres enough blame to go around. handlers,managers,friends that all contributed to her demise.

i to used to look down on people with drug problems and felt they deserved no compassion from anyone.
but ya know what? once you have seen what it can do to a loved one,good friend or relative? making them into something they were never meant to be? you change your tune.

the real culprit is as kenny mentioned -the drugs themselves, easy access, the dealers and doctors that get people started on that road to ruin.family members that turn a blind eye until its to late-the contributors list goes on and on.

until such time as drugs are no more? and supplies dry up? crime and all its related drug aftermath will continue to rise.

im so glad i never had any interest in doing any other kind of drugs other than cigarettes. they are a bad enough addiction.

pap

2/14/2012 1:51:46 PM

Waquoit Mass

and there are plenty who want to legalize them.i know it aint perfect but i say send the message to all who are young dont do drugs.

2/14/2012 4:02:21 PM

Owensboro, Ky.

Darren C., as a recovering addict. I certainly like yer willingness to help!!! Contact info, might help someone. Peace, Wayne
PS...I know from experience that when I needed help, posting my personal info on a message board was not an option...giving them a route to help would be good.
Hope this comes as helping, not as being critical!! Yer doin good!!!! Peace, Wayne

2/14/2012 5:25:19 PM

Omaha, Ne.

dchristensen68@cox.net My Life is an open book.

2/14/2012 5:54:24 PM

Omaha, Ne.

so is my phone number. for Anyone 402-612-2095

2/14/2012 6:03:26 PM

Bristol R.I. USA

I agree Pap. America drug epidemic is out of control. I must admit that I to sometimes have looked down on the drug addict. As a matter of survival we tend to have that attitude. Although we may look down on some people who are activly useing we should also have compassion. I personally think drug dealers should be help more accountable for the destruction they cause to families and the individual as well as the community.

2/14/2012 10:52:16 PM

Usa

Whitney Houston is no longer a drug addict.
Her final judgement is,and always has been,above and beyond any of us.
Her music was/is very uplifting to many people.
She began singing as a Christian.

A warrior fights a enemy by choice.
An addict,at some point,loses that choice.
Wanting people to praise warriors over Whitney Houston,,is good hearted,but selfish desire.
The most important thing that ALL American warriors fight for,is American freedoms.
Including the freedom to decide who is more important,to morn in death.

Not looking to stir shit,but poppy production,aka Heroin,is being protected by NATO forces,in Afghanistan.
Protected by standing orders,not to destroy poppy fields.That is also sad.

I thank people in my shop,for their military service.
I also thank prison guards for their service.
They fight an enemy without any weapons.

2/14/2012 11:45:43 PM

Bristol R.I. USA

The flags are being flown at half mast in New Jersey to honor Houston. I thought that was a honor for our Military?

2/15/2012 11:29:29 AM

Omaha, Ne.

Sad

2/15/2012 5:47:29 PM

Linden, Mi.,

Kenny, if this is so, you just got me pissed

2/15/2012 6:53:10 PM

Connecticut

Kenny Here is a quote from the gov of NJ.
"I am disturbed by people who believe that because her ultimate demise — and we don’t know what is the cause of her death yet — but because of her history of substance abuse that somehow she’s forfeited the good things that she did in her life,”
“I just reject that on a human level.”

2/15/2012 7:02:02 PM

Connecticut

PS.
He also ordered flags lowered last year for Clarence Clemons, the saxophonist for Bruce Springsteen’s E Street Band.

2/15/2012 7:04:54 PM

Connecticut

OK PSSS
here is the rule.
Governors and the President can order it and in addition to military and police here is the rule.

In addition to the traditional half-staff salutes when proclaimed by the President, the Flag Code mentions the use of our Flag for honoring citizens who have died, especially government officials and prominent citizens. However, the Flag Code does not exclude any citizen, whether they belong to an organization or not, whether they are recognized very locally or regionally. Examples of deceased citizens that might be honored with by lowering the Flag to half-staff include local religious leaders, youth leaders, honored teachers or sports coaches, local politicians, or a local hero. There need be no authorization from the government for the private sector (non-government) to use the Flag to honor any citizen. It is important to note that the Flag Code is a code, it is intended to provide guidance and is not obligatory. It carries no civil or criminal penalties for "misuse" of the Flag. Individual are not acting illegally when using the Flag according to their own usage. Only on government / public building is the flag code required to be followed.

Read more: http://www.gettysburgflag.com/flyflaghalfmast.php#ixzz1mUzHbcwh

2/15/2012 7:11:53 PM

Waquoit Mass

they lower the flag for politicans arent they as bad as crackheads.

2/16/2012 8:45:23 AM

Rhode Island

brought to you from daves bunker on cape cod.

2/16/2012 9:09:46 AM

Omaha, Ne.

Crackheads lie cheat and steal because there addicts. Politicians lie cheat and steal because?
Crackheads tell them self that there not hurting anyone but there self.
What does a politician tell them self? lol.

2/16/2012 10:01:38 AM

Bristol R.I. USA

Dave I think people you call "Crackheads" need help and should recieve a little compassion. Politicians on the other hand....well........I don't feel that people should be taking their anger out on Whitney Houston, for whatever reason they may have that anger. Many people who are addicts have or come from good families that have tried to help them, Can you imagine what it must be like to see a family member addicted, Trying to help them only to see them slowly kill themselves. The old quote "If you didn't do drugs this wouldn't have happened' doesn't matter at that point. People deserve to be treated with respect and dignity. I really feel that we need to get tougher on drug dealers....They supply the weak and destitute the means to kill themselves and hurt their families as they watch them hurt themselves.

2/16/2012 10:30:18 AM

Waquoit Mass

in my opinion the only time a governmental flag should be lowered is the loss of a soldier.politicians no longer serve the public they serve them selves.no bunker here pap .i got no problem tell you my views and dont hide behind a computer.

2/16/2012 11:02:26 AM

Waquoit Mass

after working in law enforcement for nearly 20 years i will say that the majority of substance abusers do get and stay clean.only a small minority cant stay clean.repeat offenders.whitney houston didnt want to get clean thought it was a joke and surrounded herself with a doper hubby .she never had a family that helped her get clean.

2/16/2012 11:09:31 AM

Omaha, Ne.

This is what I tell family's of addicts to help them understand what its like to be addicted.
I tell each of them wright down on 5 separate pieces of paper. 5 of there most important things in this life.
Then I go around with a garbage can and tell them to choose the lest important and wad it up and throw it away.
They usually do this easily.
Then I go around and tell them to wad up and throw away the 4th most important.
Then the 3rd. Now there faces change.
Then I say the 2nd. They start to protest. But I make them.
Finely we get to the last one. most are in tears. some shock. most wont give it up.
I make them. You don't have a choice.
Now you know what its like to be a drug addicted.
They all said I can control my use and that won't happen to me. You can't control illegal drugs!

2/16/2012 11:41:09 AM

Omaha, Ne.

My experience is that the smallest present ever recover. They uselessly become drunks then return to use. Like Whitney did. And or abuse prescription drugs. Always justifying saying look I don't do drugs.
Please don't think I alcohol is bad. It is controllable by most. But to someone like me its just a long slow ride back down. I hope I didn't piss anyone off. If so call me we'll talk about it.

2/16/2012 12:05:44 PM

Mn

Did'nt piss me off, I enjoyed reading the 5 piece of paper thing. I know someone close to me who is a Alcoholic, it is tuff to live with. There is not enough money in the world for a alcoholic.

2/16/2012 12:50:40 PM

Bristol R.I. USA

Darren nobodies upset. It's just adding to a forum. We all have opinions...and their all just that.I feel bad for those who suffer from addiction.. It can't be easy.

2/16/2012 1:01:04 PM

Waquoit Mass

wow surprised this went on as long as it did im done lol

2/16/2012 1:29:28 PM

Alaska

She was born with a gift and for sometime shared that gift with us. I'm grateful for that. Somewhere along the way the high she got from doing drugs was greater than the high she got when she sang. It was always her choice. She made millions. She had the resources to get the help she needed. When you are surround by enablers people that never allow you to hit rock bottom but instead keep propping you up saying what you want to hear. Why change? Everything is great. In the end she chose the path and nobody around her dared or cared enough to speak the truth. I remember when I was a kid growing up Mom would say son you better quit hanging around with that kid. He's no good and if ya keep hanging around him your gonna be just like him. Well those words of wisdom are true through out life. May she rest in peace.

2/16/2012 1:35:07 PM

North Smithfield, RI

Unfortunately she will probadly make more money dead than she did alive . Ditto Elvis, Hank Williams, and many others .

The doctors and so called friends of these people are more guilty than the addict !

2/16/2012 6:06:04 PM