I'll try to remember without my log. 7/5 selfed at 8 ft, result 20" circ and abort. 7/12 cross with 695 Handy at 10 ft result tennis ball and abort. 7/18 selfed at 12 ft tennis ball, not sure,but not optimistic, 7/22 selfed at 13'6, I think this one took and will be fine. every female has been a five lober.