These were a planned cross and I can't wait for next year. The 122 Eaton x 95 Seca and the reverse are a quasi 109 Eaton remakes. The 109 Eaton ranks right up there with some of the best- 95 Seca x 88 Eaton. The 122 eaton is 88 Eaton x sibb. The 95 Seca and 88 eaton have no common ancestory so I'm hoping for some good hybrid vigor.