that's why this one is still around,the no 4 at 153 ott and around 86 lbs.If I cull this one, the vine on the no 2 will probably be a problem ,If I leave this one then the no 2 will be fine,and I'll have 2 smaller pumpkins rather then 1 big one.Which won't win many weigh-offs,but at least I'll have a pumpkin...lol