First of all i would like to THANK All the growers who sent me seeds of all kinds...Here is what i am going to put in the dirt this year. 456 kirts, 2 of the 464 perrys. I filed and soaked the seeds on 4/12 and put in dirt on 4/16. The 456 was the first to break thru on 4/18 followed by the 1 of the perrys and the other on 4/19.The first true leafs were on 4/26 on all three. One of the 464's only had 1 cot leaf but is doing fine now. Along with the ags im going to try giant tomatos,long gourds and giant radishes and tall sunflowers. This is going to be my first real year growing ags cause last year i tried but just watered and only got a 40 pounder so we will see how it works out this Year. Again Thank you Duane